--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Brahman" 
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > jim flanegin wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ...given Mother Divine as the Universal Supreme Being,
> > > > > > all of these things are available to us at any time...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ...I don't participate in such ceremonies yet live
> > > > > > a life of total support from Mother Divine...
> > > > > 
> > > > > while this is, no doubt, your true experience, still 
> > > > > it is good to participate, also.  you may just need 
> > > > > to learn more about it ... here is a neat website 
> > > > > about MD and Navaratri:
> > > > > 
> > > > >      http://www.divyajivan.org/navaratri 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for the link. I enjoyed reading about the Goddesses. 
How 
> > is 
> > > > this different though from directly asking for blessings for 
> > others 
> > > > and myself at the appropriate time? Would those not also be 
> > > > considered yagyas? It seems to work in the same way.
> > > > 
> > > > I am not negating these forms of worship, just adding that 
> > whether 
> > > > we want to contact Mother Divine directly or do it through 
> > > > intermediaries, the results are similar.
> > > 
> > > Just out of curiosity, have you done both and
> > > compared the effects?
> > 
> > I consistently exceed every expectation I have, have for my 
whole 
> > life, so what would be the point of a yagya? For what- I don't 
have 
> > any need strong enough for such a performance. Direct devotion 
is 
> > better, and more powerful, in my opinion.
> > 
> > Perhaps if my life gets really, really, really, really 
intolerable 
> > in the future I will have need of a yagya, but that is purely a 
> > hypothetical instance. There appears to be a game we all play 
with 
> > ourselves, comparing where we are or what we have, and where we 
want 
> > to be. I have always been able to bridge such a gap through 
> > dilligence, focus, devotion, and surrender.
> > 
> > Lately I have noticed that the equation has changed somewhat. 
The 
> > gap described above is very brief on the one hand, and on the 
other, 
> > the results realized always exceed my expectations.
> > 
> > So I have concluded from this that there is nothing for me to 
> > do 'out there', such as a yagya, in order to achieve further 
> > happiness, satisfaction, good health, economic security, social 
> > integration, familial love, or any other aspect of my life which 
I 
> > deem important.
> > 
> > For others it may be different. I have always enjoyed self-
reliance. 
> > I feel that for this life, and the next, it is better to be self-
> > reliant.
> 
> Thats all fine. But you didn't answer the question. Not that you 
are
> obligated to. You stated "I am not negating these forms of worship,
> just adding that whether we want to contact Mother Divine directly 
or
> do it through intermediaries, the results are similar." How can you
> assess if the results are similar if you have not done the same 
yagyas
> that Tom is doing. If on the other hand, you simple meant, "the
> descriptions of yagyas sound similar to what I experience" then 
fine.
> But thats a difference from saying the results ARE similar.

Yes, right, absolutely. I have no idea at all what the results of 
the yagyas that Tom is having done feel like, for me, or anyone 
else. Thanks for the clarification.

And I hope for everyone's sake that the yagyas work as described. 
That would be great!





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