Yes, I think John Esq. is correct - human civilization may be much
older, but you have to understand that *recorded history* in India
begins with the historical Buddha, circa 563 BC - everything before that
is considered to be pre-historical.
From what I've read, the first written inscriptions in India date from
the time of Ashoka, circa 200 BC, and the erection of the Ashoka Pillar
at Sarnath. Campbell was probably referring to the *oral history* in the
words contained in the Rig Veda, circa 1200-1500 BC.
Certainly there is epigraphic evidence before 1500 BC in the form of
monuments, but the remains of edifice architecture in India is dated
around 200 BC at the Lomas Rishi cave in Malabar, except for some
megalithic structure that were apparently erected before that.
The starting point for South Asian pre-history is the neolithic,
megalith builders of Dravidian (Mediteranean), Souteast Asian, and
Malayan cultures, among many of the cultures that existed in the Indus
Valley Civilization around 2400 B.C.
On 12/2/2013 5:55 PM, wgm4u wrote:
I think he mentioned 'recorded' history; at any rate, if you trace
back the genesis of man you'd have to go back before Atlantis and
Lemuria, and even before that.
Swami Yogananda has said that the human being was a special creation
by God; the only creature having all 7 power centers (chakras),
thereby the only one having the ability to 'fully' reflect
consciousness (God).
The consciousness of the highest evolved animals were given the
opportunity to take on these special bodies, hence consciousness has
evolved from as far back as the mineral, plant, animal and finally man.
As it is sometimes said, "from clod, to God".
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote:
Richard,
Ancient civilization could be older than the dates you mentioned.
Some current researchers, like John Anthony West and Robert Bauval,
are thinking that the Sphinx in Egypt may have been constructed around
30,000 BC. Here's a video about the Pyramid Code:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JZHyWpyzDo
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <punditster@...> wrote:
Thanks for the link!
According to Joseph Campbell, recorded history begins with the Rig
Veda around 1200 B.C. Within the Rig Veda is contained perhaps the
first human prophecy, the sayings of the first human progenitor
called Manu. Apparently, the Aryans who invaded and destroyed
India in 1500 B.C. came from the Middle East; not for nothing is
the land they came from called Iran (Campbell 262). It is an
interesting fact that all the Vedic Gods are armed to the teeth,
including Vishnu himself.
Campbell describes the work of James Darmiester, the translator of
the "Zend Avesta", and notes that Zoroaster was one of the
earliest prophets to preach an apocalypse within monotheism.
Eschatological teachings were widely disseminated in Persia around
750 B.C. by this famous Persian prophet. Zoroaster's cosmology was
based on the concept of a struggle between good and evil (Campbell
269)). Alexander he Great of Macedonia destroyed the Persian
Empire, fulfilling the prophecy of Zoroaster. Go figure.
Campbell, Joseph. "The Masks of God." London: Hammondsworth: 1986
On 12/2/2013 11:36 AM, jr_esq@... <mailto:jr_esq@...> wrote:
You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the
antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he
is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from
highly evolved humans in the past.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8
So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this
vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in
consciousness and technology.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <sharelong60@...>
<mailto:sharelong60@...> wrote:
Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this
scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with
highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this
but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic
civilization fits in with all this.
On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams
<punditster@...> <mailto:punditster@...> wrote:
The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work
inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or
extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis,
based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an
advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C.
Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race?
Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating
that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled
early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people
were often thought of as "gods."
Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious
Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the
idea that a "Custodial" race posing as a Supreme Being seems to
provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological
society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such
warlike machinations.
On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... <mailto:jr_esq@...> wrote:
Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve
signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings
who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg
If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO
these entities can be classified according to various sectors of
the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if
there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong
to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this
constellation.
