---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, <awoelflebater@...> wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, <punditster@...> wrote:
You can pretty much tell how much this post of Robin's nailed Judy to the
wall, by the lack of a reply by Ms Stein. If this is a parody, then a monkey
is flying out of my butt. Go figure.
I have it right from the horse's mouth (Robin's) that this was a parody. Go
figure. I even have it documented in a private email. Go figure some more.
Oh, BTW, that monkey needs a bath.
On 12/26/2013 7:04 AM, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote:
This is a very shocking message from Robin concerning his departure from the
discussion group. For the record, I must apologize for the bad behavior of the
some of informants here on FairfieldLife. It is a sad comment on the state of
mind of one of the respondents that you mention in this message. I would like
to take this opportunity to apologize for Ms Stein's bad behavior in attacking
your integrity, falsely accusing you of posting parody in the place of truth -
it is a blatant display of bad form and I feel a certain amount of
embarrassment at her behavior.
I can't speak for anyone else here but Judy was wrong in her campaign to get
Barry. Her hateful hostility should be reason for pause, in her case, and to do
some hard thinking about this matter. I agree there should be a moratorium on
this whole mean campaign to malign the integrity of Richard and Barry and
Curtis - she should cease and she should apologize to the group or leave.
That's what I think.
Judy may be an intelligent and well-meaning person; but you and Curtis and
Barry and Richard have now identified what is wrong with her - and I agree with
you that Judy is the problem here, and nobody else. You were her last supporter
and now even you have had admited that Judy is in the wrong in this never
ending dispute.
When the chorus and the entire band rebels against the conductor, it is time
to revise the entire opera and start all over with not only new leadership, but
with a change of attitude.
So, I hope Judy reads this and takes it to heart. It is just sad to see you,
the Masked Zebra quit the group over the actions of a single respondent, Ms
Stein.It is sad, very sad, that it has come to this. Again, speaking for
myself, good luck in all your future endeavors. Stay on the path, beware of the
full moon.- Richard Williams
masked zebra wrote:
In withdrawing from FFL I have had time to reflect upon my history there and
the characters I have interacted with.
It will perhaps come as a shock to some, but in reading Barry more closely and
without the intense bias that has gripped me right from the start when Barry
appeared to make himself immune to the effects of my posts, I have concluded
that essentially Barry is right. Right not just about Judy; but right about
even myself. Barry is arguing from a point of view which I have up until very
recently been unable to accepteven tolerate. And this was of course because of
his refusal to take me seriously in what I said in all my posts. For Barry,
these were tedious, narcissistic, and melodramatic. Well, it turns out he was
right. At least this is the conclusion I have come to by being brave enough to
consider that my own defensiveness and touchiness in reacting to his criticism
of me and my posts was preventing me from having an experience that I needed to
have: namely, that my own estimate of my posts did not necessarily coincide
with the truth, with reality.
Whereas *his* estimate of my posts did achieve such correspondence.
So, as much as I hate to do this, given how much I have invested in this
anti-Barry project, I have to admit it: Barry is not only correct in his
assessment of Judy (see his argument with Emily and Raunchydog), his judgment
of me and my posts is valid as well.
Now I would just ask the readers of FFLthose who have aligned themselves with
Judy, with Robin, with the now departed Bob Price, with Jim and othersto
reconsider their position, since for someone like myself to undergo a change of
perception this significant, a change which I was determined would not and
could not happen, suggests something very powerful at work here. You remember
Saul persecuting the Christians and then being struck down on the Road to
Damascus by Christ, and in the violence of his conversion becoming a fierce
defender of Christ. Well, although I did not undergo quite as spectacular a
transformation of belief, I think there are parallels here, and to the extent
to which Saul became Paul, I have become a very different Robin. I don't say
that Barry is Jesus or anything like that. That would be absurd. And even if I
did think that Barry was Christ, I know he would only have contempt for such a
view of him. So, no, I won't go that far. But I will say that in the main Barry
has been right all along, and even his most vitriolic and bitter posts have
been in the service of somehow forcing people to see what they, like me, were
blind to.
Well, I have been persuaded, and in a way which really means something, that
Barry is the martyr here, and I can't tell you (although Steve perhaps has
somewhat had the foretaste of such a sensationbut only very mildly) how much
better I feel, not just in my heart, but in my conscience. I am not going to
congratulate myself on what I have accomplished here in mortifying my pride and
my sense of righteousness to bend the knee and reverse course in my judgment of
this person, but I do think that this is a lesson to all of us: no matter how
certain and convinced one is right about someonein this case Barrythere is
always the possibility (as in the case of Saul) that one's position actually is
in a contradictory relationship to reality, to truth,to the way things really
are.
This is undoubtedly the situation here. Barry in his posts has triumphed. And
I am sorry to say this, but for Judy, Raunchydog, Bob Price, Jim and others not
to see this, or at least not to consider this as a possibility, is nothing less
than tragic. For in the end, I assure you, Barry will be vindicated.
I can only pray that Judy will realize the importance of contemplating this
painful truth when she resumes posting tonight. Judy, are you there? I beg you
to consider what I have said here, that Barry is sincere and right in his
perspectivenot just about you, but about meand for that matter anyone else at
FFL who has determined that Barry is a negative character (at least in what can
be known about him from his posts which are critical of other posters). For me,
Judy, this process has been very liberating. And I wanted to share this
revelation with you before you, very predictably, went on the attack, which I
believe Barry, presciently, has anticipated will be what happens just as soon
as we see that first post of yours.
Judy, I think you an intelligent and well-meaning person; but Curtis and
Barryand even to some extent, although less passionately, Stevehave
identified what is wrong with you; and I think you must be courageous enough to
finally examine yourself, since I, who until just now was one of your most
loyal supporters have undergone an extraordinary change of heart, and have
admitted to myself that you are the person in the wrong here, that Barry is
right. Would you even just for the sake of how much I have defended you in the
past, think about what I have said here?
I pray that you will do this, Judy. Because were you to find yourself
experiencing what I now experience, you would realize that in seeing Barry as
sincere and right yields up an experience of happiness and sense of
truthfulness which exceeds beyond what you can even imagine the experience and
sense of truthfulness which is the result of holding to your present prejudice
and antipathy towards Barry.
I am not expecting Barry to exonerate me from my past dealings with him; I
don't even say he has to believe me in what I say here. But I can only say that
those who have followed me in all my posts at FFL will recognize that in this
instance, because I am going so much against the natural direction of my pride
and self-esteem, I am communicating a truth which exceeds in its power and
significance anything I have ever said at FFL.
And I will go one step further. I believe I have laid the basis for not just a
rapprochement among the feuding parties, but the foundation for a real healing
and reconciliation. I don't however believe it is incumbent upon Barry to
respond to this declaration of my newly found faiththat will come soon enough.
It is sufficient that Iand those who will follow me in thisexpress our
humility and contrition, even though, as surely Barry knows, we were, when we
opposed him, acting out of a sense of sincerity and rightness in all that we
said.
But you see we were wrong. I can't speak for those who remain hostile to
Barry; but I think, as in the case of Saul, there should be some hard thinking
about this whole matter And I would ask at the very least that there is a
moratorium on this Get Barry Campaign (which seemingly never ends) until there
has been time to allow what I have said here to infiltrate the deeper regions
of the heartas well as the mind.
I am sorry, Judy. But this feels better. And I can only wish for you to have
the experience I am having now.