noozguru, it sounds like these traditions of tantra and transcending have a lot
in common. The point is to be with whatever, to not be overshadowed by
anything, to experience silence, beingness during all kinds of activity. In
this moment, it all seems like a great gift to us all, to be alive at this
time, discussing all these great traditions, having the benefit of them in a
regular, old, householder life. Really amazing when I think about it.
On Sunday, December 29, 2013 3:21 PM, Bhairitu <noozg...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In my tantric tradition there is that ritual of having sex in a graveyard. It
is apparently a test for becoming an acharya because the idea there is to be no
climax so it demonstrates "control". My tantra teacher would have guys calling
him because they thought tantra was sex and he could teach them how to go all
night long. I even remember some guy showing up at Robert Svoboda's ayurvedic
workshop asking to learn that. :-D
And there is also the test where you sit on a corpse and bring it
to life which is apparently a test to show how much shakti you can
transfer. The corpse will flail a bit and some of the tantrics
apparently think it is trying to kill you but of course the shakti
dissipates anyway and corpse become lifeless. And of course that
is a bit like putting electricity through a frog leg so you are
just getting some kind of activity though it's shakti and not
electricity and you are not really bringing the corpse back to
life. One of my astrology teachers who was also a tantric
referred to it as a "parlor trick."
For the record there are "replacements" for both tests because you
couldn't do these in the west where we don't have cremation
grounds and folks might look askance at such activities (tantrics
and aghoris sometimes actually manage the ones in India). Even in
the tantric initiation one can replace the "wine" (which was often
rum) with fruit juice.
On 12/29/2013 11:28 AM, Share Long wrote:
>Ok, Seraph, here's a story for you: a tantric teacher complained to his master
>that he was too tired to make love with his wife. His master immediately told
>him to do so every night for two weeks, whether he was tired or not! I'm not
>sure what the intended lesson was but I think it's great if a couple can enjoy
>passionate love making that's also healthy for them both.
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>On Saturday, December 28, 2013 4:25 PM, "s3raph...@yahoo.com"
><s3raph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>Re the Wiki quote about under-age virgins being a source of longevity, I said:
>"If you believed the following you'd be well advised to keep it as part of the
>secret oral traditions!".
>I was just being cute. I'm sure there is a lot in left-hand tantra and
>traditional Taoist teaching that is strictly under-the-counter these days as
>western mores are now so dominant no one wants to attract unwelcome publicity.
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>Re Share's "Which coital positions are most beneficial for which particular
>ailments. Really a blessing to have such knowledge as one ages.":
>Having sex because it's prescribed for you! Where's the passion? There's a
>British chain of shops selling toys for very young children called The Early
>Learning Centre. The name always annoys me when I pass one of their stores.
>Can't kids and adults just play?
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>Re Bhairitu "Muktananda's prediction was that humans would shrink to the size
>of a rat and have sex all the time.":
>Sounds like a projection of the little man's unconscious hang-ups.
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>Re"Perhaps you want to see "swinger parties" in the streets?"; reminds me of
>The Beatles "Why Don't We Do It in the Road?" McCartney wrote the song after
>seeing two monkeys mating in the street while on retreat in Rishikesh with
>MMY. John Lennon was pissed because he realised everyone would assume that he
>(John) had written it and not Paul. That's just what I did assume when I
>listened to it on the White Album.
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>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmcconvY02Y
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