"The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone
That view - ie, mainstream politicians of both the left and the right are *not* the solution to our problems - has always appealed to me. Punk was more than just music, of course. Its essential attitude was that we should just be ourselves - warts and all - and ignore the "ideals" that society expects us to conform to. So even plain or downright ugly people could adopt a style of clothing that said: "This is what I am - accept me come what may." Sometimes the results were boringly self-indulgent or downright offensive; but sometimes they gave a certain dignity to those at the bottom of the social scale that you had to respect. Derek Jarman - being a true artist - captured the essence of punk in his film Jubilee. Here's a song from the film that is both patriotic and deeply subversive . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRg5pLD9EI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRg5pLD9EI