I agree with MJ. His usage of excessive scientific jargon did little if anything to enhance his position (touted by MMY but previously by others - refer to "Quantum mysticism" in Wiki) that there is a cause and effect connection between the Unified Field and quantum mechanics or physics as a whole. There's simply no scientific evidence for this....as yet. If one wants to become a "believer" in the truthiness of the connection on the basis of intuition, fine. ... I would rate Hagelin a..... . D- for the lecture on the same basis as mentioned by MJ: i.e. although interesting, his presentation provided no practical value for people (me at least) in terms of techniques; and his outdated quantum mysticism approach has been proven to be a failure in one of its objectives: spreading TM. This, his involvement in "What the Bleep" gets a D- ... His involvement in "The Secret" (the New-Agey notion that thoughts create our world); while (I believe) is "true" in a karmic sense, the shortcoming is the amount of energy required and the length of time needed to make desirable changes; as well as the sustaining effect and costs required. Example: the ME may have generated some favorable changes in the environment temporarily, but the numbers of participants (back in the 90's) fell off, below the required numbers to generate the Effect. There are many other factors, of course. Thus, Hagelin gets a D- in "The Secret" and the ME.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote: MJ, it's okay. You always can get your meditation checked. That might help clear things up for you. For, whether pure or impure, whether purity or impurity is reining everywhere, who so ever opens themselves to the expanded vision of unbounded awareness gains inner and outer purity. It is an extremely compassionate proposition. -Buck mjackson74@...> wrote: and the vast majority of what Hagelin had to say was pseudo-scientific mumbo jumbo that has no practical value for anyone. -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 1/29/14, <Buck> wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Historic Meissner-like Effect [ME] of Peace: To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 29, 2014, 10:08 PM Dear Anartaxius, Yes, we are talking history here and what a crock you trot out here. Science moves on and you are out of date with this old saw of an argument. It was only valid in context of time. But time has moved on. That guy is dead and long gone. Anartaxius, did you happen to catch the interview John Hagelin gave with Rick Archer. That had a very good summary update of where science currently is with consciousness. See Buddha at the Gas Pump, http://batgap.com/ http://batgap.com/ Anartaxius writes: Heinz Rudolf Pagels, Ph.D. (1939-1988) Physicist. Was. . [snip for brevity] . . end . . The Meissner-like Effect of consciousness coherence, continued: 1978,,Discovery of the “Extended Maharishi Effect” -square root of one percent of the population practicing the TM and TM-Sidhi program together in one place produces coherence in collective consciousness promoting positive and progressive trends in society. Maharishi tests this formula by sending Governors of the Age of Enlightenment to the most troubled spots on earth to calm the violence and turbulence. Again scientific research validates the success of this program. 12 January 1977 Creating an Ideal Society: . .people currently practicing the Transcendental Meditation technique are constantly intensifying the Maharishi Effect and contributing to the Age of Enlightenment. The dawn is rising to the day. The influence of orderliness generated from the state of infinite correlation experienced during the Transcendental Meditation technique is so powerful that even one per cent of the people in society practicing the Transcendental Meditation technique is sufficient to neutralize negative tendencies and give an evolutionary direction to community life as a whole. The phenomenon of a powerful influence of harmony spreading through a whole community or nation when a small fraction of the population practices the Transcendental Meditation technique is known as the Maharishi Effect [ME]. Considering the [Maharishi] Meissner-like Effect of Increasing Coherence in systems. “Sudden sharp changes from relatively disordered to much more ordered states may be considered 'phase transitions' as described in the physical sciences. For instance, water changes from a less orderly arrangement of molecules in the liquid state to a highly ordered crystalline structure when the temperature is lowered to 0 degree C. Physicists are now beginning to explore the possible applications of phase transition models to sudden sweeping changes in individual and social systems . . Transitions to more orderly configurations are frequently mediated by the influence of a few individuals from within a population. Such effects are observed in developing systems of many sorts. For instance, in the embryo prior to the formation of any organs, a small cluster of cells is known as 'The Primary Organizer'. These few cells determine the developmental fates of the multitude of undifferentiated and unordered cells comprising the rest of the embryo.” Candace Borland, Ph.D., and Garland Landrith III, M.A., 'Improved Quality of City Life Through the Trancendental Meditation Program: Decreased Crime Rate' in Scientific Research on the Transcendental Meditation Program: Collected Papers, Vol. I, eds. David W. Orme-Johnson, Ph.D., and John T. Farrow, Ph.D., West Germany, MERU Press, 1976 As more and more cities rose to one percent of the population practicing Transcendental Meditation, scientific research found that not only did crime decrease, but accidents, sickness, and other negative trends also decreased, and positivity increased. Research scientists named this phenomenon the 'Maharishi Effect' in honor of Maharishi. As early as, “In 1960 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, founder of the Transcendental Meditation program, predicted that a transition in society toward a more orderly and harmonious functioning would occur when a small fraction -on the order of one percent- of a population practiced the Transcendental Meditation technique (6), and in December 1974 we found that crime rate did decrease in four midwestern U.S. Cities in which one percent of the population was practicing the TM technique.” Candace Borland, Ph.D., and Garland Landrith III, M.A., 'Improved Quality of City Life Through the Trancendental Meditation Program: Decreased Crime Rate' in Scientific Research on the Transcendental Meditation Program: Collected Papers, Vol. I, eds. David W. Orme-Johnson, Ph.D., and John T. Farrow, Ph.D., West Germany, MERU Press, 1976 12 January 1972 Maharishi inaugurated the World Plan to “eliminate the age-old problems of mankind in this generation.” Right from the beginning of his movement, Maharishi predicted that even a small number of the world's population practicing his Transcendental Meditation technique could neutralize the stress being built up in the world consciousness, thus averting conflicts and wars. In 1974 these predictions were validated by scientific studies showing that in cities where one percent of the population learned the transcendental Meditation technique there was a sudden decrease in crime rates. By 1974 more than one million people throughout the world had learned the practice of Transcendental Meditation and were experiencing higher states of consciousness. With this, world consciousness was already becoming increasingly purified. Furthermore, people everywhere were experiencing the practical benefits of the development of higher states of consciousness in all aspects of their daily life, including greater happiness, peace, and harmony. A growing body of scientific research was validating the beneficial effects this practice had on all levels of mind, body, and behavior of the individual. It was at this time that research scientists discovered that in cities where one percent of the population was practicing Transcendental Meditation, the cities' crime rates decreased. As more and more cities rose to one percent of the population practicing Transcendental Meditation, scientific research found that not only did crime decrease, but accidents, sickness, and other negative trends also decreased, and positivity increased. Research scientists named this phenomenon the Maharishi Effect in honor of Maharishi. With this formula, Maharishi realized that it was now easily practical to produce positive trends in all cities throughout the world. With this inspiration, Maharishi envisioned a new age dawning for mankind. On 12 January 1975, he inaugurated the dawn of the Age of Enlightenment proclaiming, “Through the window of science I see the dawn of the Age of Enlightenment.” This is the time of the dawn of the Age of Enlightenment. I am only giving expression to the phenomenon that is taking place. One percent of the people in any country can herald the dawn of a new age for the whole nation by devoting only fifteen minutes of their time twice a day. It is in the hands of a few individuals in every country today to change the direction of time and guide the destiny of their nation for all harmony, happiness, and progress. It is my joy to invite everyone to come in the light of the knowledge and experience that the Science of Creative Intelligence provides and enjoy participating in this global awakening to herald the Age of Enlightenment. -Maharishi 12 January 1975 Om.. ....