--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Oct 12, 2005, at 12:21 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
> 
> > What if we began our own accounting of such deaths? My start is 
the
> > attached table. If you think it makes sense you might solicit 
names  
> > on FFL.
> 
> 
> I'm part of an international sangha/community of a several 
thousand  
> hardcore yogis and meditators. Our quarterly newspaper lists all 
the  
> births and deaths in the community. There are several a year. My  
> observation would be that a good number of people who are 
hardcore  
> meditators are also hardcore into alternative health practices. 
In  
> some cases they will even forego any allopathic treatment in favor 
of  
> Ayurveda or Tibetan medicine, etc. etc. The majority of these 
people  
> die early because they either do not seek "conventional" 
treatment  
> for diseases (with sometime excellent prognoses) or they delay  
> conventional treatment. An example that comes to mind was a woman 
who  
> worked at the health food supermarket. She had a fibroid the size 
of  
> a large grapefruit. Because she believed she should do everything  
> "all natural" she refused to have this removed--even though that  
> meant she could no longer have sex. Granted, in this case it was  
> benign, but that just highlights in my mind what lengths some will 
go  
> to to maintain a belief system--even when conventional treatment 
is  
> quite capable of helping them or even curing them.

Yes, excellent point -- as if conventional treatment is somehow NOT 
a part of "God" or wholeness -- the old ignoring-the-helicopter-
while-waiting-for-God-to-rescue-us-from-the-roof dodge :-)
>






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