Judy, this sounds contradictory to me. How can something be genuine and delusionary at the same time?
Judy wrote: Enlightenment reached by Eastern systems is, according to Robin, the real, genuine state of enlightenment. ... It imposes a delusionary experience of oneself, of the world, and of one's relationship to God. On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 9:03 AM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" <authfri...@yahoo.com> wrote: As I've already told you, Share, it really doesn't help just to repeat your misunderstanding over and over. You have never bothered to engage with what Ann and I have told you. I'll try it one more time: Enlightenment reached by Eastern systems is, according to Robin, the real, genuine state of enlightenment. Got that? But genuine enlightenment itself is not what it's cracked up to be: It imposes a delusionary experience of oneself, of the world, and of one's relationship to God. Now, read those two sentences over and over until it dawns on you where your misunderstanding lies. I'm not interested in hearing from you again on this until you can show you understand Robin's position correctly (whether you agree with it or not). << Judy, here is what I understand: you used the phrases enlightened days and genuine enlightenment with regards to Robin. Then you said that Robin said that enlightenment reached via Eastern systems is a delusion because ontological union between God and human is not possible. Are these statements accurate? >> On Monday, February 10, 2014 11:25 PM, "authfriend@..." <authfriend@...> wrote: You're repeating his (or my or Ann's) words out of context and without understanding, Share. You're not really trying to understand; you just want to find a way to bash him. << Judy, later Robin said that his state of enlightenment was actually, to use Ann's words, a state of delusion. I'm merely repeating what he himself has said. Or what you and Ann have said that he said. >> On Monday, February 10, 2014 5:45 PM, "authfriend@..." <authfriend@...> wrote: Of course you denigrated Robin. Robin claimed he had been enlightened, and you're insisting he wasn't. I've explained why your "logic" is, to say the least, faulty several times, as has Ann. It really doesn't help your case that you keep repeating your misunderstanding without ever addressing what we've been telling you. << Judy, I did not denigrate Robin. I called your phrases enlightened days and genuine enlightenment inaccurate because you said that Robin said that enlightenment, including his, via Eastern systems is a delusion because ontological union between God and human is not possible. >> Xeno doesn't read the posts he counts here. If he did, he'd realize that most of Barry's posts were thoroughly dishonest attacks on me or Robin; and that in addition to refuting Barry's dishonesty, a substantial number of my posts were dealing with a discussion our Stevie can't seem to let go of in which he is quite idiotically trying to insist Robin and I were deliberately trying to "fool" people with our irony exchange; plus a bunch from Share attempting to denigrate Robin via her misunderstanding of his views on enlightenment. (Although the two posts he claims had the same title, did not.) << Posts from 1 February 2014 to 10 February 2014 4:00pm EST authfriend 143 replies, 4 original posts (although 2 had the same title) turquoiseb 53 replies, 16 original posts >>
