---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <anartaxius@...> wrote:
I suppose we see this differently. I do not see god. I see being, not evidence of being. You see (if I interpret your words correctly) evidence of god in the things you see. That seems to have an interpretative step involved. Am I understanding this properly? If by "interpretive" you mean on the level of thought, then yes, that is part of my perception. But I don't see things in terms of "being", that is very impersonal, abstract and therefore distant for me. I feel embraced, literally surrounded and cocooned within all of this creation and the creation is so intelligent. The world in which I live is like swimming amidst all of this incredible richness of matter. We exist as physical entities in our human bodies surrounded by soil and sky and walls and we stand on dirt or wood or stone. It is everywhere and it is whole and real. And the structure of it, the form and movement is evidently the result of something that guided and gave birth to it, allowed it to manifest. This is my feeling, this is how I move and work within this material world. For me, these things are irrefutable. You speak of seeing "being" and I do to but perhaps our perception of being is different because I also see it as something deeply personal and loving and it is concretized in the things that make up this world, this universe. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote: [Xeno] As to theism, I am a post-theist, I do not think the theistic arguments have much point, but they do have some interest for me even if I disagree with most of them. Fesers' discussion below is really well done, I think. I myself sometimes think using the conception 'absolute being' without the articles a, an, the, but it has a different significance for me than for a theist because it is not transcendent and not out of sight. [Ann's highlight] [Ann] I am a theist and my God, my creator is very much in evidence everywhere I look. It is not a transcendent thing and it is not out of sight.
