---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emilymaenot@...> wrote:
By the time I was in my early 30's, I had gotten 4 tickets for not wearing a seat belt (it was a secondary offense at that time). I found them constricting and was exercising my "freedom" not to wear them. I paid the fines; the fines had no effect on my behavior at all. Finally, I was sent to seat belt school where I learned and experienced, visually, mentally, and emotionally what the reality might be and what the stats were in terms of death and disability with and without their use, in the case of a major accident. That had a huge effect and forever changed my behavior. I would wear my seat belt whether it was the law or not. That is based on an informed decision. All I want is the continued right to make my own decisions on things like this. Seat belts definitely save thousands of lives. There is no question about that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote: Ann, I see what you mean. But what if wearing your seat belt also protects passengers in your car. IOW, you're still behind the steering wheel and maybe steering. There's a very visceral scene in the Meryl Streep movie Adaptation. A car is going pretty slowly and suddenly collides and a body goes flying out through the windshield. Very motivating with regards to using seat belts, to say the least! On Monday, March 3, 2014 1:47 PM, "awoelflebater@..." <awoelflebater@...> wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote: Ann, now I'm curious. Are you opposed to seat belts? Nope, I think they are a really, really good idea. I just don't like people forcing me to use them by threatening to make me pay a penalty in the form of money after giving me a ticket. I feel our society is riddled with this idea of 'staying safe' and with it the enforcement of laws that start to infringe on my basic freedom of choice. I am also fully aware that many would argue that the freedom to make bad choices (not wearing a seat belt or bike helmet) is not a freedom worth having if you are dead or severely disabled. On Monday, March 3, 2014 10:34 AM, "awoelflebater@..." <awoelflebater@...> wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote: Ann, I figured you would misinterpret my statement on bull riding, either intentionally, or unintentionally, so you didn't let me down there. Ann, you crack me up with your stance on bike helmets. I mean talk about having a near sighted view on safety! You might want to look at some stats on bike accidents with, and without helmets. You seem to be a rather serious mood this morning. And if you think my "stance" on bike helmets is "near sighted" you should hear my stance on seat belts! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote: Ann, glad that you can speak so expertly on behalf of (seemingly) all gay couples. That's certainly a relief. I didn't mean to imply that I don't understand the need for helmets with bull riding, just that it takes away from the macho image of it to some extent. Oh, I still think seeing some idiot who decides to strap themselves on top of an animal weighing close to a ton and not happy about it is pretty macho, albeit it ill-informed. A tiny little thing like a crash helmet and safety vest hardly spoil the image for me - they're still macho and idiotic (or is that redundant?). I assume you are being factitious about bike helmets. No. I have a really rebellious streak about having to wear them, which we do here up in British Columbia. You get fined and ticketed if you're not wearing a bike helmet. I think it's stupid. Soon, you'll have to wear a safety vest to walk down the sidewalk or get thrown in jail for unnecessarily endangering yourself. I don't like to be dictated to when it comes to my own safety. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote: Definitely moving in that direction. (-: Although, and not related, I do support MLB's decision to try to reduce those hard collisions at home plate. But, I will say, I can't quite get used to helmets for bull riding. Helmets for hockey? Okay, although I well remember they game being played without them. How about those safety vests for bull riding that they all now wear? Frankly, I think bull riders should be donning Michelin Man suits. Concussions are a big deal now and virtually everyone wears a helmet for most sports and so they should. Damaging your brain in the service of entertainment is hardly worth it. One thing I do have a problem with, however, is having to wear a bike helmet. I think of all the miles and hours I was atop a bike as a youngster and I never once fell on my head, as hard as that might be to believe. And okay, thrown out for discussion. I would guess that many gay couples may be uncomfortable with the fact that they can now marry in many places. I think you are guessing dead wrong. I am particularly thinking of my sister who has lived with her S.O. for many years. I have never discussed it with her, but I am not sure they would want to get married. Phew, you have never discussed this with your sister? But I wonder if it becomes a awkward decision for some gay couples, who might have wanted to stay just beneath the radar, and now a question might arise, "well why don't you now get married" No, no. Silly notion. And yes, I admit, the whole notion of people of the same sex getting married does strike me as a little odd. But I have no objections. Well, that's a relief. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote: Probably would do a smash-up Super Bowl half time show. On Sunday, March 2, 2014 4:30 PM, "steve.sundur@..." <steve.sundur@...> wrote: Keep going Judy. This is your strong suit. Mine it Judy. Mine it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote: (guffaw) Nobody could ever accuse you of trying to conceal your ignorance, Feebs. Okay, okay, you gotta admit, this sounds like a man trying to sound like a woman. A customer of our business is a transvestite, or maybe a man who just likes to cross dress. We saw him last week, and he sounded a lot like the guy on this recording. Also, I just came in from doing an errand, and they had the guy Judy was talking about, and he sounded just like a normal man. So, I'm not sure what the big hubub is about. I guess it is considered high art or something that a man can sing like a woman, and we should all oooh, and aaah, and shout Bravo! Bravo!. Evidently I am missing something. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: My freshman year of college I played a concert with the famous contratenor Alfred Deller and the University of Washington symphony. The concert was in a church which now houses Bastyr University, a naturopathic school and the church is used for many recordings including movie soundtracks. Here is a clip of Deller singing "Greensleeves": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V41O5J-EIGU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V41O5J-EIGU Also one of my TTC course leaders was a contratenor and sang for the group. On 03/01/2014 12:04 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo
