--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [I wrote:] > > The ones who are toadies are those who flatter the > > pope in the hope of personal gain rather than because > > they think he's wonderful. > > Believe whatever you want, Judy. > > This exchange really illustrates the difference > between you and me. You seem to believe that to > perform questionable actions (toadying up to some- > one to gain some benefit from that) one *has* to > be insincere. That's a point of view based on an > idealized and non-real-world view of life.
No, Barry, this doesn't have anything to do with beliefs, sorry. I understand why you have to try to change the subject to try to find some way to put me down, rather than admit you're wrong about the dictionary definition *you* posted. But this is *only* about that definition. You're more than welcome, as I've already said, to use a different definition as long as you don't claim it's the same as the one you originaly posted. You're also more than welcome to start a new discussion about what I believe, as long as you don't try to pretend it's relevant to the discussion about the definition, because you can't tell anything about what I believe based on what I've said about that definition. It's apples and oranges. And you're also completely wrong about what I believe, because you absurdly tried to derive my beliefs from what I explained about the definition of "toady." Plus which, your hypocrisy shows up big-time: > IMO, you are (as usual) trying to make a shades- > of-gray situation into black and white, and IMO > for your usual reason -- you want to feel superior > to someone. If you convince yourself that a > person *has* to be insincere to be a toady, you > can look down on them. Would you like me to post some of what you said on alt.m.t when you decided to begin calling people who agreed with me on various points toadies? Because that would make it crystal clear that *you* look down on those you call toadies in that context. > Me, I just recognize that > the toadies are human and the students who aren't > toadies are human and they're all just doing the > best they can with what they've got. I think I'll post this on alt.m.t for everyone to get a chuckle from. It'll be kind of hard, once folks have read it, for you to use the "toady" characterization as a putdown > But you continue to project nefarious motivations > onto people if you'd like. It seems to be a trend, > so much of one that somewhere along the line you > seem to have decided that it makes you *happy* to > think of people as nefarious and yourself as not. > Personally, I don't think such a belief system > really does make one happy, but I could be wrong. This is just *too* rich. It couldn't possibly be a more accurate description of yourself. OK, I can't resist. Three quick selections from Barry on alt.m.t: "Grownups don't really feel the need to toady up to others in an attempt to gain either their approval or form some kind of consensus to feel that their view is correct. They just pick a view and express it and let others decide for themselves." "And, of course, as usual, *you* didn't jump on board until after Judy had suggested it, you spineless toady coward." "Toady weak and wimpy and in over his head. Quick... support toady." ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
