I'm enjoying these. Keep in mind that Shankara respected Mandana and was trying to win him as a disciple, which he eventually did.
on 10/22/05 1:53 AM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Shankara retorted: "You have failed to know the Self > have committed Atmahatya (suicide)." > "You are a thief," replied Mandana, "for you have come > into my house stealthily like a thief, avoiding the > notice of my gate-keeper." At this, Shakara observed: > "You are a real thief; for, you eat your food without > giving to Sannyasins and Brahmacarins their share > as laid down in the scriptures." Now at his wit's end, > Mandana attempted to beat a retreat, saying, "I should > not be talking like this to a brutish fellow like you > during the time I am engaged in ritualistic performances." > Referring to a mistake in articulation in Mandana's speech > (/sambhaashya aham/ [wrong sandhi - carde] instead of > /sambhaashyo 'ham/), Shankara said mocking, "From your committing > /yati-bhanga/ (inappropriate pause), you are indeed giving > an exhibition of your scholarship." Quibbling on the meaning > of the word /yati-bhanga/ (which also means 'attacking and > defeating a Yati or monk'), Mandana remarked: "When I am > concerned with the defeat of a Yati (yati-bhanga), what > harm is there if I commint a /yati-bhanga/(inappropriate > pause)?" To this Shankara replied with another quibble: > "Your presumption will be true, if you say 'defeat *by* > a Yati' in place of 'defeat *of* a Yati'. For the former > is what is now happening." Continuing his abuse, Mandana > said: "Where is the sannyasa in Kali-yuga, and where is > Brahman for a brutish fellow like you? You have put on > the garb of a Sannyasin only as a means to get food without > any work." Shankara retorted: "Where is Agnihotra in Kali-yuga? > And how can heaven be attained through all the foul actions > involved in ritualism? Your garb of a ritualist is only a > means to secure the license for living with women." ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
