---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :
Seems like there's a limited number of things that can be done with bulls. What happens to male buffalo, for example? They can't each have their own herd of females, and you can't have a herd of males, can you? They'd kill each other. With horses the younger or maturing males simply coexist with the rest of the herd and once in a while decide to duke it out with various other lesser males. Basically, the head stallion breeds the mares and the less dominant ones simply remain as residents. Occasionally if they get too uppity they are driven out or leave of their own volition and sometimes they remain solitary or occasionally come back to gather together some mares to create their own harem if they can fight the head stallion and win, even momentarily. Ultimately, the most dominant member of the herd is a mare. She is the alpha mare and will tell the head stallion when to fix the roof or wash the car, especially on weekends when he is free after having fought off the whippersnapper teenagers and finished breeding the willing mares who are in season. I'm serious; I really don't know. Something in nature must keep down the number of males that reach maturity, at least of this general type of critter, no? I never thought about it before. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <j_alexander_stanley@...> wrote : It would make sense to keep a bull or two around for breeding purposes. But, it is highly unlikely that they keep all males. Unlike Jersey cows, which tend to be sweet and docile, Jersey bulls are considered the least docile of all cattle breeds. As steers, they are apparently suitable as draft animals, albeit not the largest and strongest breed for that task. But, can cutting off a bull's balls and enslaving it as a draft animal truly be considered ahimsa? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote : Not quite true, Alex. One of the males is featured here: http://www.universalfields.org/tala_ram.html http://www.universalfields.org/tala_ram.html Doesn't sound like he's going to end up as veal chops, but perhaps he's the exception. At any rate, the text sounds very respectful and protective of the males. True, which is why unwanted male dairy calves often end up slaughtered young, as veal. It's a huge glaring omission that the website below is totally focused on the cows, with no mention of the males, which make up 50% of the calves born every year. Radiance Dairy in Fairfield operates under basically the same principles, and the owner has no shortage of people who want to buy his male calves, which ultimately end up as little wrapped packages of meat in a freezer. Folks can go on and on all they like about the Vedicness and Sattvicness of milk, but the reality is that with the exception of a few very rare ahimsa dairies, milk production has slaughtered animals as a by-product. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote : Of course milk cows are not beef cattle. Folks here should read Swami Bhaskarananda's "The Essentials of Hinduism" where he writes about that. It heard tales of him taking a slice of roast beef at a Vedanta Society potluck and putting it on an anemic looking disciple's plate. I met him in the 1970s when he was the new Swami at the Seattle Vedanta Center where the late Bobby Warren took me because "it was a good place to get incense." On 04/27/2014 09:25 AM, srijau@... mailto:srijau@... wrote: A beautiful key to creating Heaven on Earth for all mankind, the proper treatment of the cows http://www.universalfields.org/index.html http://www.universalfields.org/index.html Jai Jai Jai Jai Jai Maharishi-ji!