Be interesting to compare EEG measurements of lucid dreaming vs. witnessing dreams, see if they're similar or distinct. I've witnessed dreams, but there was never any impetus to interfere with them; and I've had a few lucid dreams in which becoming lucid was the trigger for changing them. For me they were very different types of experience.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <rick@...> wrote : From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 1:31 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lucid dreaming can be induced with an electrical current My understanding has been that witnessing dreams is just that, witnessing them, not trying to change what's happening in them. No? True, but I think there might be a correlation. People who witness might be more inclined to dream lucidly, due to being more clear in all states. A friend of mine who witnesses sleep clearly and consistently says most of his dreams are lucid. I don’t know if he tries to change things or just dreams more consciously than is ordinarily the case. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <rick@... mailto:rick@...> wrote : From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 1:04 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lucid dreaming can be induced with an electrical current Who thinks of lucid dreaming as "mystical" or "spiritual"? I don't think I've ever heard that one before. A lot of spiritual folks think of it that way. First reference to it I heard was in Carlos Casteneda’s books. Often discussed in talks at the Science and Non-Duality conference. MUM professor Charles Alexander (now deceased) did some research on it. It may be associated with witnessing sleep. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@...> wrote : Another fascinating article presenting a different way of looking at experiences that many would call "mystical" or "spiritual." To a scientist -- or to a non-dogmatist -- they're just experiences. Scientists Induced Lucid Dreaming With An Electrical Current http://www.businessinsider.com/r-to-sleep-perchance-to-control-your-dreams-2014-11 http://www.businessinsider.com/r-to-sleep-perchance-to-control-your-dreams-2014-11 Scientists Induced Lucid Dreaming With An Electric... http://www.businessinsider.com/r-to-sleep-perchance-to-control-your-dreams-2014-11 The findings are the first to show that inducing brain waves of a specific frequency produces lucid dreaming. View on www.businessinside... http://www.businessinsider.com/r-to-sleep-perchance-to-control-your-dreams-2014-11 Preview by Yahoo