No one is making the case for ranking anyone else, as a human being. This persistent whine of yours, to just level-set everything; there is no enlightenment, no witnessing, no comparative values, for anything is very tiresome.
This allows you to hide your spiritual failings, your lack of experience, your lack of understanding of the teacher you worked for, briefly. If it is all the same, and no one is doing anything, then those truly stuck in the mud, such as yourself, are off the hook. Sorry, Charley. You have been involved in one spiritual pursuit or another for decades. And yet you are still deficient in the first step a seeker makes - becoming established in silence. It is too bad, but rather than trying to deny it, just admit it, and get on with your life. Holding up a false image of yourself must be an awful lot of work, pretending to be enlightened, while having no established Being - must be a nightmare for you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote : On Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:33 AM, "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: In range and distribution of illumined Batgap interviewees by types, just throwing these Batgap illumined people interviewed thus far on a scatter graph by their experience and spiritual affect on others, it seems observable that some of the awakened are more proactive in affect as teachers, some are long time practiced at helping others spiritually and/or transformational for others just by being of a field effect of presence. Some of them are teachers in nature of character, while some may glow in the closet and watch sort of like Harri by experience was for so long. Others transformational in effect like a Janet Sussman also from childhood or Connie Huebner from younger or Ammachi from way back, yet different from glowing in the closet each in their lives have been engaged teaching in formats with spiritual experience, techniques and scholarship to be of help to others for much of their lives, Batgap is a fabulous oral archive around this range of spiritual possibility within humanity based on a scale of abiding experience and spiritual transformational affect. It is useful for parsing to see them in a range and distribution of, Teachers -Gurus -Sat Gurus -Jagad Gurus by scale of transformational affect. Just as a question, wouldn't it be more interesting to consider the possibility that everyone Rick has ever interviewed is Just Another Human Being, whose experiences are in no way any "better" or "higher" than any others? In other words, it seems to me that Buck is still arguing for the elitism approach, trying to categorize these folks into "higher/lower" and "better/worse" pigeonholes so that people like him can look up to some of them and look down on others. Wouldn't it be more...uh, dare I say it...enlightened to consider them all at exactly the same level -- just human beings having an opinion based on their individual interpretations of their respective subjective experiences?
