--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Wouldn't the momentum of the gunas carry the 'freed' soul essence > > after Brahman is achieved, almost effortlessly into progressively > > more expanded states, creating a powerful and inevitable > dissolution > > of the strong force, and hence sense of self? > > Well, it's a funny thing -- identity with a separate self is in a > very real sense dissolved at Brahman-Brahman-Brahman, when one > realizes one has always been "nobody," and there has always > been "nothing" to do amidst the ocean of perfection Now, and it is > at least possible to die at this point and not return to Earth or > Earth-like planes (as in the model one has reached "Maharloka").
Yes, we have "flipped, out" so to speak (*lol*) > As you and I are aware, the Work has now ended, but the Work also > actually *begins* at that point, wherein spacetime "reverses" and > one begins as Spirit to re-enter Matter as a sort of avatar, > to "eat" or assimilate the entirety of one's past. One's perfection > and Wholeness-Self has "blind-spots" to meet and greet. Yes, very definitely. And the Work appears to move much faster at this point, because we are no longer Working within the constructs of Maya. In a sense, > one has yet to fully fuse God and Goddess, one's male and female > sides, or to expand Wholeness beyond one's midsection ("Maharloka") > to embrace and assimilate one's whole bodymind...and beyond. Well said. But > many traditional models of Enlightenment end at Brahma-Brahma- Brahma > or Nirvana, so it is not difficult to imagine some portions of the > Whole deciding to "rest on their laurels" as it were :-) Yes, I do it myself, until like a pool of water overcoming its surface tension, assimilation continues unabated. > > Granted the model > > accounts for such a state as the 'pyramid people', but in Reality, > > how long could such a state be sustained? > > "How long" ceases to have much meaning after Brahma-Brahma-Brahma, > doesn't it? I suspect Bentov is speaking of entities like the > Watchers or the Theosophical Society's Dhyan Chohans, or > the "Discarnate Gods" -- actually, filtering divine bliss through > one's system into the denser planes is a legitimate function; one is > serving as a sort of transformer or "elevator attendant." Now, *that* makes sense. Otherwise I was stuck in the consideration of such souls not meeting the minimum standards of the Universal cost/benefit model. Seen another way, it seemed at first such beings would be bliss-channeling 'idiot savants' of a sort. Hence my earlier remarks about such beings being not quite human. > > If this is indeed "Janaloka," one or more of these entities might > eventually decide to return as a Teacher to the denser planes, and > in the process learn something more about themselves and the ever- > unfolding mystery of the human and the divine, and of the male and > female, and of duality in general :-) > That too makes sense, and brings to mind the thought I used to have whereby all I wanted to do was evolve to the point where I didn't ever have to return *here* ever again! (*lol*) Not only does that now make no sense for obvious reasons, I appreciate this Earth plane very very much more than ever. And I'll leave it at that for now. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/