Well, Bevan does have a long war record. Bevan seems more like 'an old general' 
who will not fade away, when one looks at the record. Ypres. For people 
researching lurking from outside looking in on the personalities of the people 
inside TM now,  FFL post [377120] can be useful for some perspective between 
the two characteristic sides of TM: 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/377120 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/377120 
 At this point Bevan, it would seem, is keeping himself circumstantially at the 
lecturer-teacher level in his primary role to preserve and perpetuate 
Maharishi's teaching and movement as Bevan sees it and also is attending to 
help wrangle and secure Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaaraam Dr. Tony Nader in authority 
as head of all TM.   Bevan has always been a strong leader that way for 
Maharishi, sort of like Joe Stalin was a strong leader. That is as legacy of 
his own and Maharishi's making and may be different than what is otherwise seen 
as spiritual, charismatic or saintliness. At a best Bevan seems a brave, 
formidable and loyal soldier.  A dirty and ruthless fighter too.  Classically 
there can be a lot to admire in the guy that way, -Buck
 
 Bevan? He is different than the other guys around him at that echelon, he 
seems sort of like an Australian version of Don Corleone. Bevan is a character 
extremely interesting in the TM story. Maharishi did not designate him 'Guru', 
everyone else at that level are administrators or 'Raja' though Bevan is 'Prime 
Minister' over it all. He is clearly the most powerful person and largest 
elephant in the room. Maharishi used him that way for 40 years. Bevan has 
presided over all that is TM with Maharishi as Maharishi's confidant and right 
hand for that long. As such he has also presided over the whole long decline 
from other times of height of what it once was as Bevan came in to control to 
some lows of what it is now. So, Bevan is not a 'guru', not an administrator 
like everyone else, he is Prime Minister, is he a saint? One should go back to 
the scholarly consideration of that. In what way is he spiritually 
transforming, or spiritually 'charismatic'? He is teacher-ly and in control but 
what is his 'field effect' that he carries with him? Fear or charisma on a 
scale of 'spiritual'? Spiritual-charisma? 


 Defining Charismatic, spiritually:
 


 charismatic .. .
 

 "Weber, in an oft quoted passage, defined charisma as a certain quality of an 
individual personality, by virtue of which [s/]he is set apart from ordinary 
[people] and treated as endowed with supernatural, superhuman, or at least 
specifically exceptional powers or qualities. These are such as are not 
accessible to the ordinary person, but are regarded as of divine origin or as 
exemplary, and on the basis of them the individual concerned is treated as a 
leader." 1
 

 Introduction: “.. .New religions as first-generation religions, whether a new 
orthodox Christian movement such as eighteenth century Methodism or a new Hindu 
group built around a recently arrived guru, share many characteristics. During 
the first generation, the founder, whose new ideas led to the formation of the 
group, places a definitive stamp upon it. The first members are self-selected 
because of their initial confidence in the the leader and/or their agreement 
with the leader's program. The first generation is also a time of 
experimentation and rapid change. The leader must discover the right elements 
to combine in a workable program, generate solutions to unexpected obstacles, 
choose and train capable leaders, and elaborate upon the initial ideas or 
vision that motivated the founding of the group in order to create a more 
complete theology. The group formally or informally gives feed back in the form 
of approval or disapproval of the leader's actions. The most successful leaders 
are continually adjusting and reacting to the feedback.”
 When Prophets Die
 The Postcharismatic Fate
 of New Religious Movements
 Edited by Timothy Miller
 Introduction by J. Gordon Melton
   

 nablusoss1008 asks: 
 

 Dear Buck, with your knowledge of inter-religions and insight into modern 
faiths and traditions, what great Saint, in your opinion, does our dear Bevan 
resemble as he blesses (with folded hands) the students upon the arrival for 
the ceremony ?

 

 Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi 
University http://www.soderetube.com/watch.php?vid=22ec9164c

 


 

 mjackson74 writes:

 Jabba the Hut, with about as much integrity.

  
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