On 6/4/2014 8:07 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote:
When did you get your advanced technique? When I got mine in 1976 it
was based on a different beej mantra from the first technique I got.
I've heard in later years it might have been taught by using the
original beej and adding to it. There are all kinds of way to create
advanced mantras and they can have different effects too.
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That's interesting because when I got my initial TM initiation, Jerry
Jarvis gave me the bija mantra /and the fertilizer/ the first time. My
advanced technique was the Night Technique I got from Satyanand that had
no mantras at all.
What I'm interested in is where MMY got the list of bija mantras.
Usually you get a bija mantra from your guru, not a whole list of bijas
to pass out to others. There are lists of bijas in so many books, but a
real guru would probably not get them from a book, or would he?
And, how would MMY know what bija mantras SBS was giving out, since they
are supposedly whispered into the ear and kept secret by the student in
an initiation?
Apparently all the bija mantras used in TM are bhakti mantras used in
/qualified non-dualism/ by Vaishnavas. Are there any bija mantras in TM
that would be used in relation to the impersonal Brahman?
When you think about it, repeating a sound over and over in your mind is
kind of a strange thing to be doing, when you can't even read a Sanskrit
scripture or even speak Hindi to find out what it means. How do we know
if somebody didn't just make up sounds to confuse the people and charge
a fee?
What is it, exactly, that would lead a rational person to repeat a
nonsense gibberish phrase given to them by a total stranger?
Also, how many mantras does a person need to know in order to become
enlightened? There are a lot of unanswered questions about the bija mantras.
I've been asking these questions for 40 years - and since 1999 on the
internet - and nobody has been able to provide an answer. You're
probably the most qualified person to date. Go figure.
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On 06/04/2014 05:28 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Gee, in my understanding, you get only one bija mantra when you're
initiated. The advanced techniques aren't new bija mantras, they're
actual Sanskrit words that you use with your original bija mantra. Am
I wrong? I have only one advanced technique, and that was the case
for me.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <s3raphita@...> wrote :
ReFunny you should mention that. On my TTC when MMY came to make us
teachers he also gave out advanced techniques. On the flight back
home folks were running around asking "do you remember the mantra
that MMY gave you for an advanced technique?" A number of people
could not or were confused as to it's pronunciation (including myself).
Ha-ha! There are also stories of people (here on FFL) who reverted
back to their original bija mantras because they found the advanced
technique mantra didn't agree with them. (I bet there was no
money-back-if-not-completely-satisfied clause.)
