I know people from that era who still think Charlie was hooked into some kind 
of special ascended master crap and therefore thinks he was some kind of 
special guy, even the ones who don't do TM anymore.



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Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on 
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From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>



  
Having listened to a couple of tapes I think he sounds like an old time 
preacher crossed with any number of new age guru's. Maybe you had to be there 
to buy into whatever charisma he's supposed to have but he delivers his 
speeches like a second hand car dealer reading a script. 

I wouldn't say "used car salesman vibe" as much as I would "Theosophical poseur 
vibe." Charlie -- from my perspective -- was pretty much a clone of every other 
male teacher I've ever encountered in the world of Western Mysticism. Used car 
salesmen actually display a little faux emotion in their pitches. Theosophists 
and Golden Dawn-ers tended to speak in that "I cannot display emotion of any 
kind when I speak because that might lead people to believe that this 
incredible wisdom I'm laying on them was learned recently and is a new 
revelation for me, rather than something I was a master of before they were out 
of grade school" tone of voice. :-)

Charlie was a mildly entertaining charlatan. I always figured that the only 
reason TMers in L.A. flocked to see him was that his spiritual poseur act was 
at least more interesting than hearing Maharishi say the same old things on 
tape after tape after tape. I went to see him because his talks were the best 
place in town to pick up women. Most of them were TMers or TM teachers there 
for the same reason -- to hook up.  :-)


It reminds me of John Hagelin's endless rants on the Marshy channel - but 
without Hagelin's obvious insanity. Maybe there were just a lot of people about 
in those days that wanted to hear - a positive message, no matter how unlikely? 

They loved to hear him talk about "the things that Maharishi *wouldn't* talk 
about." It didn't how silly or naive or insane these topics were, just as long 
as they were new and sounded vaguely "spiritual."  

Maybe this explains the intensity of Hagelin's monologues, in Charlies day no 
one knew any better but now we have the benefit of hindsight, to keep banging 
on that the Golden Age is coming sounds positively demened. Poor old JH is 
trying to convince himself as well as us whereas Charlie probably believed it 
all...

I'm honestly not sure how much of Charlie's jive he believed. I honestly got 
the overall vibe of a guy who has been telling the same stories for so long 
that it no longer *mattered* to him whether they were true or not. He just got 
off on telling them again, for any audience that would listen with rapt 
attention. 



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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :


Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer.


I notice that the deserts aren't exactly "blooming" at the moment, did he have 
a specific timescale for this wondrous new world of peace and enlightenment, or 
do we have to annihilate radical Islam and the oil industry first?



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