On 8/5/2014 12:15 PM, [email protected] [FairfieldLife] wrote:
LOL - Hilarious! Especially that this photo-shopped "flying guru" was
Barry's Master and Teacher for so many years! What a hoot! Yeah,
Cult-Buster Barry at the ready!
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Apparently Barry altered this photo to make it look like Lenz was
levitating over water. Which brings up the question - why is it the
guilty True Believers like Barry, always scream the loudest?
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Hey, MJ, what say you about your favorite TM basher on here, and the
ridiculous fraud that he followed and revered, as an incarnation of
Vishnu, no less, for years and years?? Are you sure it bolsters your
street cred? You may want to think about your slavish and thoughtless
support of this former cult addict.
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My theory is that Barry is still under mind-control or in a
trance-induction state and he has been programmed to act as a /false
flag planter/ in order to keep the conversation going so he can post
more propaganda about his cult leader, Lenz. While most of he TMers on
FFL have been practicing plain TM for years and minding their own
business, the TB is busy trying to infiltrate newsgroup with other
informants because he realizes that nobody cares anymore about his
failed spiritual trip. Maybe he just feels better when he has someone to
talk to - about his old dead teacher. Barry was supposed to be Lenz's
successor, but he sucked so bad at teaching spirituality, that the other
Rama guys went over to the /Adi Da Samraj /cult. Go figure.
Adi Da Samraj
/The Adi Da Samraj - Enlightend Master/
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---In [email protected], <punditster@...> wrote :
On 8/4/2014 6:57 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@...
<mailto:turquoiseb@...> [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Lawson, it's really difficult to believe you're as unintelligent
as you come across sometimes. *ONLY* a cultist could *possibly*
believe that Tony Nader is "King" of something, anything.
The billion bucks was definitely tracked as income and assets of
the TMO. However, the same people who did the tracking admit that
no one knows where the money is now. It was redirected from other
countries to Maharishi's relatives, a black hole into which it has
disappeared, probably never to be seen again. If that's your idea
of a "kingdom," I wish you well with it.
When it comes to silly, very little on planet Earth could possibly
top the silliness of someone who actually believes that Tony Nader
is a "King" who could pass along his "kingdom" to his progeny.
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Zen Master Rama levitating over water
/Zen Master Rama levitating over water/
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You're simply not sane if you believe that, Lawson.
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*From:* "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]"
<mailto:LEnglish5@...[FairfieldLife]> <[email protected]>
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*To:* [email protected]
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*Sent:* Monday, August 4, 2014 1:27 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
You guys are fond of quoting newspaper articles claiming teh TM
organization is worth billions.
That's a pretty hefty kingdom, if it really is worth that much, and
whoever controls the crown, controls whatever the asserts are wroth.
As an aside, anyone ever wonder at how silly people have to be to
entertain so many contradictory ways of looking at things?
L
---In [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>, <[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> wrote :
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<mailto:[email protected]>, <turquoiseb@...>
<mailto:turquoiseb@...> wrote :
Lawson, you're a hoot. You really do believe that there could possibly
be "succession issues" with regard to a "kingdom" that doesn't exist.
How sweet and brainwashed of you.
I always wondered for who's benefit the King was for, turns out it's
Lawson. Go figure.
Arise Sir English!
I often wonder how well the TMO would do if it just sold meditation
rather than a pre-packaged kingdom with all bases covered from teabags
to divination and invincible homes. Maybe they wouldn't alienate
absolutely all but the most feverishly needy. Maybe it would be a big
success or maybe it would sink without trace in a crowded market
place. I don't suppose we'll ever know.......
For that matter, it's pretty brainwashed and unrealistic of you to
believe that the TMO could *last long enough* to need someone to
replace Tony Nader...
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*From:* "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]"
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*Sent:* Monday, August 4, 2014 3:49 AMre
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
Um....
King is generally a hereditary position and in fact, I recall that
Maharishi emphasized that when he talked about Tony abu Nader.
In fact, for a very long time,. I was wondering how the heck King Tony
was going to have kids if he was totally celibate.
And it turns out he wasn't.
Problem solved.
Though, of course, his daughters might not qualify to be "king" in the
male-dominated TM organization, and might not want to be ruler of the
Global Country of World Peace even if one or the other DID qualify.
I rather suspect that Maharishi had some alternate way of selecting
King Tony's successor if he only had girls and/or none of his
offspring were deemed suitable heirs to the throne.
Maharishi, more than anyone else, would have some sense about how
unclear succession issues can bring about huge fragmentation in an
organization such as the TMO, and given how meticulously he planned
everything else, I would be greatly surprised if he hadn't planned for
that eventuality as well.
L
---In [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>, <turquoiseb@...>
<mailto:turquoiseb@...> wrote :
Just to follow up, in case there there the possibility of a follow-up
implicit in this question, I have never met either Tony Nader nor his
wife. Both were long after my time in the TMO. I know nothing about
either of them than stuff that's been discussed here or on a Usenet
forum called alt.meditation.transcendental or (in the case of Da King)
official TM forums and press releases. If you stumbled on my name as a
budding critic of the royal couple, I admit that if you searched the
Net you might find parodies or criticisms I've written in the past
about them.
But I really did that because it was such a SETUP, man. I mean, the
*literal* king of TM, presented for decades as celibate and the very
personification on Earth of bramacharya, turning out to have had a
wife and kids for all these years? That's pretty classic, and if I
poked fun, I hope you can understand that I really had no choice. The
SETUP was just too compelling. :-)
That said, I don't really have any strong feelings about the Naders,
Mr. and Mrs. For all I know he might be an OK guy to chat with, if I
could get a few beers and a joint into him before we started. My take
on him is that he'd need that much just to get real. :-)
But if I were to ever offered the opportunity to sit down and have a
conversation with either of them, it would be Mrs. Nader I'd go for,
in a heartbeat. I know *nothing* about her other than that she's
French. THAT, plus the fact that she managed to find a way to be the
Invisible Wife Of A King make her in my book a *great* person to talk
to. I would pay *money* to be able to chat with her about what it was
like to be the Invisible Queen -- just the two of us, off the record,
just shootin' the shit, just giving her the opportunity to express to
*someone* what a long, strange trip it must have been.
I'd bet she has some GREAT stories to tell. I'd much rather hear them
than ANYTHING her husband could ever say, either on or off the record.
Besides, they'd be in French.
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*From:* "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]"
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*To:* "[email protected]"
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*Sent:* Sunday, August 3, 2014 12:40 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
I don't believe I ever said that, no. In fact, I don't believe I've
ever heard anyone *else* say that, either. So if you've heard such a
rumor, dish. :-)
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