Excellent post. Some comments forthcoming.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> > > > Kinda like losing various geniuses and other "luminaries" 
> > through 
> > > > the 40 million+ abortions performed in the USA since Roe v. 
> > Wade...
> 
> 1.  Studies have shown that women who have abortions early in life go
> on to have the same number of children they would have had anyway, but
> only at the time they want them.  Roe v Wade did not significantly
> reduce pop. growth rate in the US.  Affluence seems to be the major
> correlate with fewer number of children in a family, so according to
> the above logic we should keep the population poor so that they have
> larger families so that we have more luminaries.
> 
> 2. The crime rate-abortion studies are not in any way a policy
> prescription for dealing with crime. It simply shows the relationship
> between the two and is useful in refuting other theories about why the
> crime rate suddenly dropped significantly in the US in the 90s,
> theories that may sound logical but have no basis in the statistics.
> 
> 3.  The crime rate-abortion studies are not nazi or racial in nature,
> they are sociological.  We already knew that unwanted children growing
> up in a poor, single family environment were more likely to commit
> crime, esp males starting around 17-18 yrs old.  Prior to RvW, there
> were plenty of abortions in the US, only it was difficult for poor,
> young, single women to afford them.  About 17-18 yrs after RvW the
> crime rate starts to drop signficantly and continues for several yrs.
>  5 states that had legal abortion earlier see the dramatic drop in
> crime rate earlier.  It's not that there are fewer numbers of a
> certain racial type, it's that there are fewer unwanted babies being
> born to a certain sociological group -- poor, young, single women.
> 
> 4.  Which brings us to the TMO's Washington, DC Crime Rate study,
> which they say proves that the DC course in 93 significantly reduced
> crime.  I've only been able to find a summary of the study which
> states that they compared the crime rate during the course to the same
> time period for the previous 5 yrs and found a reduction.  What's
> strange is that they admit that the crime rate continued to drop in DC
> even after the course ended.  Normally that's a reason to conclude
> that something else, not the course, was the source of the crime
> reduction, but the study spins it to say that just proves how powerful
> the M-effect really is.
> 
> Of course we know now that crime rate was starting to fall everywhere
> in the country, esp cities, in 93.  If you compared crime in the
> summer of 93 to an avg of the prior 5 yrs in most every other US city,
> you would come up with similar statistics that they came up with in
> DC.  This is why good studies use good controls.  And crime rate did
> continue to drop in DC and most all cities for the next several yrs,
> which further disputes the study's conclusions.
>







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