On 8/29/2014 5:47 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
I don't get it. You don't provide any substance for why someone should
disregard Maharishi's teaching. You have made the point plenty of
times that TM is not the perfect solution for everything. Yep. Anyone
who has done it for any length of time recognizes that.
However, what is it about the lives of those here on FFL, who don't do
TM, that I should emulate? If it is true that TM practice will not
lead to the fulfillment of all desires, then what will? You are not
making your case. As for me being some brainwashed TM fool, my life
experience makes that an automatic fiction.
>
It's obviously a cry for help, Jim. But, when they won't even consult a
cult-exit counselor after getting kicked out, do you think they are
going to listen to experts like us? You are probably their last hope.
Remember, we are talking about two guys that quit TM and one then went
over to the /Zen Master Rama/ and the other then went to see /the Deepak
Chopra/. There's no telling how much money they spent on various
techniques that they didn't even practice. Go figure.
>
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :
"Maharishi also makes the point many times over, that the world is as
YOU are."
Good point. But given the fact that he was a proven liar, who in their
right mind would cherry pick little gems of his dubious wisdom to base
their life, philosophy or criticism of others on?
"It is critical to work hard, and diligently, for enlightenment, the
fulfillment of all desires."
This is made up baloney that in fact has nothing to do with liar
Marshy's so-called teachings. He rooked Westerners into supporting his
lifestyle with the promise that TM would solve all ills. Look at the
siddhi posters I put out here recently. Claiming that TM would fulfill
all desires and aspirations. What manure.
And you also have no clue as to how hard I have worked or how diligently.
Mistake I made was using TM as a tool AS WE WERE TAUGHT TO USE IT FOR
THE PURPOSES IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR. (Enlightenment,
fulfillment of desires, levitation and other supernormal abilities and
so on.) Problems? Get your meditation checked. Do an extra set of
asanas. Here's a new set of pranayama. Worse problems? Get your sutra
practice checked. Manure and doesn't solve a damn thing.
"But I see you as lazy and vindictive"
But by your own POV, the world is as YOU are, thus you must also be
lazy and vindictive, plus suffering from the inability to see through
the TM illusion you allowed yourself to create ages ago.
But one day you will wake up from the dream and those of us who woke
up first will be ready and willing to help you along and get you back
on your feet. And we won't send you to a Vedic head shrinker either.
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*From:* "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, August 29, 2014 8:02 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] 8/12&13/14-Maharishi: As we take care
of ourself, the world will take of itself for us on that level
Maharishi also makes the point many times over, that the world is as
YOU are. We make the world in our own image. Think about it. In other
words he is saying if MJ is bent out of shape, MJ also will inhabit
such a world. Absolute freedom, along with absolute responsibility.
As for your sour grapes over having not reached the goal? You are a
whiner, just like the other whiner on here. It is critical to work
hard, and diligently, for enlightenment, the fulfillment of all
desires. But I see you as lazy and vindictive, and that will not ever
lead to your spiritual liberation, no matter how much "Maharishi's
fault" it is. Good morning.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :
Spoken like the greedy selfish individual he was. And for him, it
worked. He spent his adult life sponging off others and getting them
to fulfill his greedy desires by fooling them into believing if they
practiced his beginners meditation they would magically get all their
desires fulfilled. All glory to a selfish huckster.
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*From:* "Dick Mays dickmays@... [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 13, 2014 7:44 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] 8/12&13/14-Maharishi: As we take care of
ourself, the world will take of itself for us on that level
8/12&13/14-Maharishi: As we take care of ourself, the world will take
of itself for us on that level
"All desires will always be on the level of what we deserve. Whatever
the level of consciousness, desires will be on that level. So we don't
have to worry much about desires. What we have to look into is what we
deserve. We don't have to worry for what we have; we have to worry for
what we are. And as we are in an evolving context, more and more we
will have of everything. More important is what we are.
The world is to us as we are to the world. The world is celestial if
we have the eye to see it; the world is different from us if we have
that level of consciousness; the world is part and parcel of our own
Self at another level of consciousness. So it depends on what we are;
it depends on where we are, and then everything is for us on that
level. Everything.
So we have to take care of ourself, and then the world will take of
itself for us. It's beautiful. We just take care of ourself, and what
the world will be to us will be taken care of by the world. What we
will be to the world, will be taken care of again by the world if we
have well taken care of ourself. Only from small 's' we have to be big
'S' and that is all that is to be done. Self-realization is the key to
all glories in life.
Everything is available, only we have to start using it. Everything is
there -- infinity is there ready for us to use it. It's there. Better
start using it. It's there. Unboundedness of life is there. Start
living it.
And we have a systematic procedure that is a procedure-less procedure,
a pathless path. We want to cognize and accomplish infinity, but that
infinity is so close to us; it's permeating every fiber of us, every
fabric of us, it's there. It's not that it's so far away beyond
everything. That which is beyond everything is contained in
everything, sustained in everything. The Self is composed of that.
That is the essential constituent of life, so we don't have to go far
beyond. We just look within. And there we are in infinite value, in
the unboundedness.
That is the home of everything; That is the goal of everything;
everything is coming on to That just like the ocean is the home of all
the rivers. All prosperity, all knowledge, all power, all glory keeps
coming on to the infinity. All the channels of life and living proceed
on towards infinity, and that infinity is our own Self.
Therefore, we don't have to run here, there or anywhere. We just be
where we are, and then everything will come on to us as rivers
naturally come on to the ocean. Only we have to be aware of our …
oceanhood, if it's a right word. We are an ocean, only we have to be
aware of that ocean-like unboundedness. That is all that is necessary.
Be and [since] all the beings have their existence from It, in It, and
all are proceeding onto It what we find is that all the enumerable
channels of life keep creeping onto us, and we are then the
well-wisher, the supporter of everything, and everything supports us.
It's a mutual give-and-take. So why not take care of ourself, and then
everything will be taken care of in a very, very nice way? This is our
message which we want to whisper to every man everywhere, 'Now, come
on, take care of yourself and everything will be glowing.'
If the bulb does not take care of the light within itself, it cannot
emit light. If the self cannot take care of the unbounded possibility
within itself, it can't radiate that infinite, that unbounded glory of
life, that grace of God. No, it can't. Everything will radiate what it
is, that's all. And, therefore, it is very, very vital that every
meditator is aware of this fact that as he takes care of his own Self
more and more, all the streams of growth, progress, achievement and
fulfillment will rush on to him just as all the rivers rush on to the
ocean and bring everything from every side at his feet.
This is the gospel of Being. We just be; we have only to be."
~Maharishi~
~"Experiencing the Source of Creation through the Transcendental
Meditation Program" (Videotape)~
~Humboldt State University, Arcata, Califorinia, USA -- August 7,1970~
Jai Guru Dev
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