Richard Expansion Unlimited
On Saturday, September 6, 2014 1:00 PM, Share Long <sharelon...@yahoo.com> wrote: What this post of Xeno's makes me realize is that on one level, people ARE ideas, especially in an online community. But they are ideas that have come to life, that move about on their own. Whereas ideas qua ideas are sort of inert items, not very juicy, sort of disconnected from flesh and blood and bone. OTOH, each of us as if embodies some qualities, and usually one quality or idea stands out from the others. For example: Fleetwood Lively Intellect MJ Disgruntled Innocent Dan Urban Kindness Xeno Detached Observer Steve Spiritual Householder Me Resilient Fluff John Gentle Jyotishi Ann Wonder Rider Edg Word Magician maybe more later (-: On Saturday, September 6, 2014 7:34 AM, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: ________________________________ From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 6, 2014 2:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reading or Not Reading Posts Wow Xeno, for a guy who has seen a few years, transcended a time or two and who ploddingly, dryly picks apart most subjects you certainly seem to miss the proverbial boat a lot. Do you ever break out of a shamble? Does red blood pump around in blue veins? Do you get angry, excited, passionate about anything? Bawee and MJ do NOT bring to light anyone's "samskaras" except what might exist as their own. These two are not catalysts for bringing to light anything but their own hanging on to past injury and perceived injustices which have resulted in anger and disappointment disguised as righteous desire to shake people up. Whatever they are doing simply pinpoints their own hanging on and resentment and for you to encourage or congratulate them is to illustrate your own limitations. Check the fluff box now. The 'fluff' box is where your messages presently reside. Samskaras are the main reason people act with passion, indignation. I have them too, I just do not have as many as I used to and some are more attenuated than formerly. If you push someone enough, you should be able to activate some of them and get a response. We humans, as bodies, are stimulus-response machines, the gunk in the machine determines the output from a given input. A conditioned response. My seemingly dispassionate responses are my conditioned responses, your passionate ones are yours, Barry's and Michael's are theirs. Now to my mind, Barry seems to have more awareness of his samskaras, his engrams, than most here even if he does not think of his behaviour in those terms. I have never felt Barry's so-called anger is real, whereas I have always felt that Judy's and yours is. Correct me if I am wrong about my surmise about you. The samskaras we need to worry about are the one's that cripple our ability function in the world and to form clear interpretations of what is going on in the world. PTSD is an example of samskaras that can cripple. I am not really interested in people as psyches, personalities. I am interested in experience, and in ideas about experience, and in how the world works, or seems to work (we may never really know how it works). The soap opera of personal interaction does not interest me, though I do enjoy person interactions, but really personal interactions are not possible when many functioning samskaras are running their routine because the essence of the person is not there, just the overly reactive conditioned responses. You know that quote by Eleanore Roosevelt 'great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people', and while I do not have a particularly great mind, I do like ideas over events and people. It's the proportion that counts, as it is impossible to go through a day without encountering events or people and what they are like. A tremendous amount of time is spent on FFL discussing people's behaviour; it's gossipy and shallow. It even happens with me, I am not immune. I enjoy Barry's and Michael's posts because they dredge up conditioned responses. This happens even if I am not interested or even know what their intent was in making the post. That is private in them. For example, I initially on coming to FLL had some of my samskaras activated by Barry, and I tried to figure him out. That turned out to be mostly a waste of time, figuring him out. What turned out to be more valuable was figuring 'me' out, figuring out why I would react a certain way to what he said. Same with Judy. Now maybe Barry does the same thing, but that is for him to say. How often do you analyse your reactions to what life presents? When we can consciously do this we can undermine our conditioned responses and experience a bit more freedom. When we are not aware, the world entraps us, conditions us. It is ironic that organisations, such as the TMO, verbally dedicated to liberation, freedom, always end up entrapping us by the creation of systems designed to condition our minds to a herd mentality. Quite a few here, Barry, Michael, and even you are aware of this. Don't sleep too much; you are going after the wrong prey, by looking outside for the source of your discontent.
