---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote :
I know someone in both camps and he was saying that the last unofficial course he went on the meditators they taught were asking him how much he'd been brainwashed by the movement "because they do that don't they". He denied any thing of the sort, but then he doesn't read the comments here! and this is the evidence sited by someone who prides himself on the scientific method? Sorry but I wasn't there to record the brainwaves of the people who were asking my friend about brainwashing in the TMO. It wouldn't have made much difference though because matters of opinion are unlikely to have a radically different EEG signature unless there is high emotions at stake. So I chose an amusing coda to the anecdote instead. I thought it was amusing anyway, but you can't please everyone ;-) I'm scratching my head here. (-; I'll expand on it, just for you. My friend still does the TMSP but has sympathy for the "renegade" teachers as had known them for years before them leaving the TMO. But being asked about brainwashing in the TMO surprised him as he thinks the opposite and wondered what they had been told to think it in the first place. My little joke is that had he read the output here most days he might wonder at the sanity of long term meditators a bit more and maybe question the effects of exposure to the TM belief system. There you go, you can stop scratching your head now... #salyavin808, Thanks for the synopsis. The scorpion nation fell from grace originally because a bunch of old UK TM teachers broke ranks from policy edicts they saw as out of touch and were teaching the old way, independently. Damn scorpions. Is there still a scorpion independent [renegade] group of TM teachers teaching meditation in the UK? They stood off Vlodrop, had an association and a web-page at one point which was daring. Is that who you are talking about doing well teaching transcending meditation or is it the new TM movement returned? What do you see there? I have a friend who was on an early India course with Maharishi, he told the story of some female course participant coming out of her hut alarmed about a scorpion on the wall inside her hut. Satyananda come out to look, took his sandal off in hand and smacked the scorpion dead on the wall. That is how Indians deal with poisonous bugs.. Summary execution. Take that as a lesson. Evidently the Scots breaking from the UK and rule from 700 miles away is a recurring theme in that culture. Sort of like the old UK TM teachers breaking from the Rajas of Vlodrop and Maharishi at a time. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck in the Dome mjackson74. wrote I mainly wrote the post to poke Buck et al. Now, if one were to believe in the occult power of TMSP in groups, the proverbial Marshy Effect, would one believe the YF groups in the UK would affect the outcome of the vote which way, yea or nay? salyavin808 writes: They would indeed claim that, but the trouble is no one knows which side is the actual "correct" one that "nature" might support. Maybe they'll claim it was the ME from all the new meditators if it all works out well. But if the whole island goes tits-up they'll have to come up with a reason why it didn't work. Again. But the, Marshy was a nationalist and wanted all countries to stick together and be ruled by their indigenous people as they will be closest to the "natural laws" of the country. So any remaining picts will be the natural leaders of Scotland, painted blue of course. From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Important Question for Sal ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : I love all the Scorpions but I am especially fond of the Scots and hope they all vote a resounding "Yes!" and immediately outlaw the practice of TMSP and make it illegal to advertise TM in any way, shape or form. LOL, you really don't like it do you! Here's the news, TM is very popular in Glasgow and the teacher there makes a good living from it. Edinburgh TM are doing well and are building a vastu centre. There is already one of those in Aberdeen (I think) which is my ancestral home. I love Scotland too but I hope they vote "No" because the chaos for both countries will be amazing and we'd be stuck with the Tory scum forever. They want a decent welfare state but there's only 4 million people there which won't raise enough taxes to pay for it without the massive bonus they've been getting from the English tax payer, and without the pound they will be in trouble as the Eurozone looks pretty much finished as usual and are unlikely to want another broke country to bail out. If I lived there I would probably vote "Yes" though, just to not be ruled by from 700 miles away by the shower of bastards we've got at the moment. This profound wisdom and practical move will of course be followed by Ireland and Wales after they declare independence from the Isle of Edward Longshanks and of course David Lynch will be prevented from ever coming to any of the three new countries. If he sneaks in he will be arrested and incarcerated. Any and all TM owned properties will be nationalized, sold and the the proceeds given to citizens who paid various amounts of money to learn TM, TMSP, go on courses and so on. When this happens and the word goes out, let's see how many of the TM faithful will remain faithful and how many want to put in a claim and get that fat purse. All written with the knowledge of how much Buck and his frens on FFL will love the post. From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 2:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Important Question for Sal ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : Alright Sal, we all know that in a few days the Scots will vote on whether or not to form their own country. Now forget all the nonsense about whether the country will prosper by itself. The real question is: if the Scots create an independent country, will they no longer be considered Scorpions? As part of the UK were they originally considered Scorpions? Good question, I would say that us English were the scorpions because we probably took over Scotland and the other two and they've never really been happy about it. Feel free to like them but continue to dislike me if they vote yes. Or was Scorpionland just England proper, excluding Ireland, Scotland and Wales not to mention the Islands, or was it all just one big land of Scorpions? Mind you, the SAS will be nothing without the Scots, and it there was a lot of Welsh archers inflicting so much damage at Agincourt, so maybe you'd better keep hating all of us just in case...