Barry, this is why, if you are so inclined, it is really a good idea to follow Sam Harris's advice and choose a guru carefully. You "studied" with a "teacher", who has apparently taught you to avoid reality, or provided you with nothing to rid yourself of some pesky past impressions, a la TM and Maharishi.
You rant and you rave, but the freedom you seek, through your own enlightenment eludes you, and you express this drivel instead. The kind of self righteous anger and indignation you work yourself up into, is a waste of your time, a waste of my time, and a waste of everyone else's, except Michael's. You let yourself be consumed in every way possible, though mental distraction, pointing fingers everywhere - but even your phalanx of digits cannot protect you from yourself. So let's hear it - What have you done lately, and just this once, watching the tv, doesn't count. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote : From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fleetwood_macncheese@...> wrote : Excellent find, prison boy! That "reporter" came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. I disagree that the reporter was arrogant, there he was confronted with a bunch of deluded fruitcakes who think they can fly, and who are also doing shady deals to gain property in his country, he's damn right to be suspicious. Trouble is, a lot of people here lack the objectivity to see that they are mixed up in something so bizarre and lacking foundation. It's more than a little scary that people like sometimes-rational feste don't see the insanity in this news clip that 99.99% of the world's population would see. Maharishi is just fuckin' GONE, man, which one might attribute just to senility and old age, if it weren't for the fact that most of the other people who represent the TMO in the segment are equally GONE. Bevan has never *been* more embarrassing than he was in this bit, and that's really saying something. I still think that a lot of it w.r.t. the brainwashing is the "frog in the pot" syndrome. Yeah, I know it's probably a real phenomenon, but the metaphor was that if you put a frog in a pot of hot water, he recognizes the threat to life and just jumps out. Put a frog in cold water and slowly raise the temperature, and he'll just sit there and allow himself to be boiled to death because he gets used to it in small increments. That's what happened to formerly rational TMers. The brainwashing "snuck up on them" over a period of years and decades. Over that time they got used to seeing things around them that would sent had them running for the exits if they'd been allowed to see them during their first months with TM, but by the time they *did* get to see them they'd been trained to consider these things "normal." This is what is scariest to normal 99.99% people watching clips like this one. It's *not* the craziness of the principals, like Maharishi and Bevan and "King" Tony -- it's the craziness of people like feste who make excuses for them, and write off their obvious insanity by claiming the interview was a "hatchet job." Now *that* is scary. You'd almost *expect* the leaders of a worldwide cult to be crazy, but the everyday followers of the cult? When I was a newbie meditator I was filled with the usual fervent zeal of the newly converted, convinced I'd discovered some truth that has eluded the mainstream. Imagine my surprise when the Sunday Times did (for some reason) a round up of cults and what they were all about. I was shocked to see TM in there at all but the fact they got a maximum loony rating seemed amazing at the time. But I didn't know anything about them then. You need to be on the inside not to see it. Exactly. Part of the *definition* of "being on the inside" is having been sufficiently brainwashed to consider these levels of insanity normal. The scariest part, from my point of view, is that once one has made an internal (and rarely conscious) decision to accept this level of craziness as normal, it's very, very, very, very difficult to ever be able to see it another way. Once brainwashed, people tend to *stay* brainwashed, unless they have a great deal of personal power and will and an inability to be coerced by cult peer pressure. Marshy came over very badly I thought, were you convinced that the reason he refused to meet in person is because he found that new people waste his time? He was *clearly* reacting to the reporter's 'tude, which refused to give him the suck-up obeisance he'd gotten used to getting from almost everyone. So he did what all Narcissistic Personality Disordered people do in situations like that, and tried to "regain control" by stalking off. Think Robin Carlsen stalking off from FFL when no one would treat *him* the way he expected to be treated. What sort of crappy excuse is that. "Can you fly?" is a perfectly reasonable question to someone who makes a fortune out of telling others they can. It certainly is. Especially when you've got top-level toadies like Bevan claiming that he could. And the faux grovelling outrage by Bev and Da king convinced me not at all. That *was* interesting, wasn't it. I got the feeling that at least Tony realized what an ass he was making of himself, but Bevan had nary a clue. He was as "out of it" and as unconscious of what constitutes normal behavior as lifetime schizophrenics I used to see in a state mental hospital I once worked in for a short time. Bottom line, someone didn't take them seriously and they didn't like it. Exactly. Furthermore, this "someone" had access to the media and about halfway through the interview they realized they didn't. I think that one reason Maharishi reacted the way that he did (like a petulant, narcissistic, spoiled brat of a child) is that he realized *during this interview* that it was OVER for him in terms of the general public buying his act. There was a day when he could have charmed even a reporter like this. But no more. This guy was treating him the way he would have treated any other crook, and Maharishi couldn't allow that to continue so that the sycophants around him could witness it. Better to stalk off in a snit and pretend that he held the upper hand than to allow them to see that he'd been thoroughly bested by an average-intelligence Australian TV reporter. I think that this news clip should be shown to every sucker school, company, and military organization that has been bamboozled into taking David Lynch's spiels seriously. No preaching, no lobbying...just sit the principals of the organization down and ask them to watch this clip before deciding on whether to pour money down the TM toilet and flush it. I suspect that the outcome would be *exactly* what holding-on-for-dear-life True Believers fear it would be -- NO ONE would ever take the TMO claims as anything other than madness ever again. Just think about the buzzword that Maharishi was trying to sell as a product during this clip -- "Invincibility." Here he was claiming that TM and the TMSP would make whole nations "invincible" and he was so fragile and so emotionally out of control and so intimidated by a TV reporter that he reacted like a petulant child and stalked off. Some "invincibility," eh? Just as an aside, isn't it fascinating that Mr. Enlightened Trailer Trash thinks Maharishi's "stalk off when someone asks a question he doesn't want to answer" routine is a "win?" That, after all, is JIM's act whenever someone brings up something *he* doesn't want to deal with (like pretending to be a woman for months on FFL). He gets angry, loses all self control, and then stalks off himself, dropping out of sight, often returning later with a new ID and hoping everyone has forgotten how much he embarrassed himself. As cult leader, so like cult follower...Jimbo is parroting not only Maharishi's dumbass dogma, he's mimicking his behavior. This is just what people suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorder DO. They attempt to control those around them, and if that attempt fails, they either find a way to get rid of them (excommunication, firing them, sending them home from a course, canceling the interview), or leave themselves (stalking off in a snit). --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*." :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*." :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature is not available right now. 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