On 10/25/2014 4:38 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
well, you are the foremost scholar on the movement, of course, no
matter if you are 1500 miles and 15 years removed, you still appear to
know what goes on on every level of the organization.
>
/Apparently nobody knows what's happening with the "movement", least of
all MJ, 1500 miles and 15 years removed.
We are all outsiders, even if some of us meditate in the dome.
That's because nothing is going on with the movement - if there was
something going on with the movement, we could all watch it move.
If Rick and Alex don't know what is going on inside the movement,
probably nobody else does either. Go figure./
>
One burning question though.
When one of your TM alerts comes in, at say 2:00 in the morning, you
do right then and there get up to check it out, or do you at least
wait until you wake up?
Just curious.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :
the most salient point of all this is that it is being done OUTSIDE
the Movement - it is NOT being conducted by the Movement, nor the
university thou they may be involved to some extent (you know
Beddinger has to be there to take names). The Movement will NEVER
acknowledge anything this sensible unless they are forced to.
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*From:* "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, October 25, 2014 8:17 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a
form of mental illness
*salyavin808*asks:
So, what happened at the meeting, who said what and what are they
going to do about it?
Dateline Fairfield, Iowa. The meeting? It was one in a continuation of
working meetings held about mental health in the community that have
been ongoing for months now most every Tuesday going under the working
banner of the Fairfield Mental Health Alliance. These are working
meetings of people who are interested in being activley involved in
helping with communal mental health. On alternating Tuesdays are
working committee meetings while on the off Tuesdays is the large
group meeting where the committees bring their work. The larger
meetings are very business like organized by agenda. A lot has been
done [accomplished in very tangible ways] over several months to
facilitate mental health in to the community.
The meetings are open to interested people who would be actively
involved. They are not gripe sessions where people just hate, bitch
and complain, but working meetings looking for action steps to work on
and facilitate. Different aspects have been focused on and worked on
within the ongoing previous meeting process. Last month before this
last meeting the other night was the presentation and distribution of
the campus guideline for psychological health treatment. That was a
historic meeting and showed the work of a lot of people.
This current meeting the other night was a facilitated meeting getting
down to the cultural things that may underlie meditator communal
mental health. Everything came on to the table. It was really well
facilitated. Evidently it is now time in the process to really
consider elements of our culture. There were about 40 people around
the room of various ages and rank in the community. The meeting had a
cross-section representation of students, graduates of the whole
school system, long-term community meditators, campus people, and
movement leadership.
It was extremely well facilitated lasting within and hour or so such
that everyone was asked to speak and participate in a series of rounds
around the room where everyone was asked by the facilitator who ran
the meeting to respond to particular questions in short and those
comments were captured on whiteboard and poster boards by scribes in
front of everyone to be kept and read through out the meeting.
Starting with a question something like, in only a few limited words
and without statement what do you see the problem is here in the
community culture with mental health? 5 or so words. It went around
the room. Then once everything was on the boards in front of everyone
came the next question, in a word how do you feel now about all that
was said? It went around the room to everyone including movement
leadership. 'Hopeful' was a common comment among a range of feelings.
Last large question of the group was something like, in five words
what should be done to effect change in the communal culture? Again
time was taken to go entirely around the room and the answers were
recorded by scribes on boards in front of the whole group to read.
That went around the whole room and everything was said without
comment or discussion. It just moved around the room to everyone.
These were pertinent action points.
In the end of the meeting then everyone was asked to come forward and
physically vote with a limited number of hash-marks to what they felt
were the most important points offered in the meeting. That data then
will subsequently generate a report with priority for a future meeting
about what it might take to change the culture of the movement around
mental health. It was all very open and very well done. Communal
process to continue,,
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Now, as the science evidently does seem to indicate do take some quiet
time for effective transcendent meditation for the welfare of your
mental health and go forth and have a better day.
Jai Guru Dev,
-Buck in the Dome
? “..the role of principle Barry hater - and you have to admire the
gusto!”
No, we all rate posts as we may read them on spectrum; from posts that
make: Observations, to suggestions, to criticism, by negativity and
tone, to apostasy, thence to active anger and hating. In reading these
posts I feel Ann through reading the individual postings here simply
lost some faith more in Turq by her better understanding of his
writing and approach here after reading the Lenz book that was posted
here. It is that simple also.
I always read the Turq and feel he has a valid perspective from
having 'been there' at a time, by his contrast with spiritual
experience like Fleet's, and now I feel I have an even better
understanding of him as a critic from this recent Freddy Lenz/Rama
thread on FFL. Context often is everything.
That is something that is particularly good about the writing on FFL,
that it often can render down what is truth. Judy was very much part
of that process when she was here. Ann also helps with that by virtue
of her mind about things and by life experience as context about
things here. Some here have been pricks and Ann may be prickly towards
people at times. Rick seems to welcome almost everyone contributing
to the related topics of FairfieldLife. I thank Rick for that. Public
forum is often one of the best checks against theocratic tyranny.
There was an amazing open meeting last night in meditating Fairfield
where everything was on the table in front of a bunch of the higher-up
apparatchiks of the new TM movement. For upward pressures on the
organization being beyond theocratic control, FFL has long been a part
of the calculus of the meditating Fairfield communal culture.
There is a lot of change going on inside right now by virtue of the
attention of public forum. Turq in his way has been part of that for
years by force of his experience, personality and writing. I would
miss him if he gets entirely hounded or completely embarrassed off of
this forum. In the same way I feel it was really mean the way they
hounded Judy personally off this list and out of this community. Rick
and the moderators should have stopped that before the end.
I would hope we could all be kinder with one another in process.
Jai Guru Dev,
-Buck in the Dome
