salyavin, from my own experience I think that TM is necessary for emotional
good health. But it's not sufficient. Just as it's not sufficient to deal with
a toothache or a broken finger or a floundering marriage. Anyway, ALL the
issues that have been brought up here, have been brought up in these meetings,
and often more than once. The whole process is very encouraging and exciting
and makes me feel happy to be part of these organization as it goes through its
growing pains.
On Sunday, October 26, 2014 8:27 AM, salyavin808
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :
Oh no no no no Sal! Haven't you read Share's gushing posts about what a grand
effort the TMO is officially putting forth to combat suicides in Fairfield???
They certainly don't need to admit TM isn't the cure for all things. They are
doing all SORTS of fabulous things, all created and orchestrated by the
magnificent TMO!!
I'm sure we'll see whether what they offer officially is of any worth. Seems to
me that if they break down the mystique of TM as the single greatest thing for
human development then it will only be a matter of time before someone
questions the validity of their position on the unified field of consciousness
and all that that entails. Maybe they'll even start to wonder about the ME or
yagya's, from small acorns can mighty oaks grow. Or the other way round of
course! There is no excuse for continuing to preach an all encompassing world
view without any evidence to back it up and still call it a science.
Shorn of the religious hyperbole the TMO might become a more realistic school
of thought and might do more good in the world when it isn't scaring off anyone
who doesn't like the sight of crowns and ranks of chanting Hindoo boys and
teaching astrology in schools.
From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:05 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of
mental illness
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
salyavin808asks:So,what happened at the meeting, who said what and what are
they goingto do about it?
DatelineFairfield, Iowa. The meeting? It was one in a continuation ofworking
meetings held about mental health in the community that havebeen ongoing for
months now most every Tuesday going under theworking banner of the Fairfield
Mental Health Alliance. These areworking meetings of people who are interested
in being activleyinvolved in helping with communal mental health. On
alternatingTuesdays are working committee meetings while on the off Tuesdays
isthe large group meeting where the committees bring their work. Thelarger
meetings are very business like organized by agenda. A lot hasbeen done
[accomplished in very tangible ways] over several months tofacilitate mental
health in to the community. The meetings are opento interested people who would
be actively involved. They are notgripe sessions where people just hate, bitch
and complain, but workingmeetings looking for action steps to work on and
facilitate.Different aspects have been focused on and worked on within the
ongoing previousmeeting process. Last month before this last meeting the other
night was the presentation anddistribution of the campus guideline for
psychological healthtreatment. That was a historic meeting and showed the work
of a lot of people.
This current meeting the other night was a facilitated meeting getting down to
the culturalthings that may underlie meditator communal mental
health.Everything came on to the table. It was really well facilitated.
Evidently it is now time in the process to really consider elements of our
culture. There were about 40 people around the room of various ages and rankin
the community. The meeting had a cross-section representation of students,
graduates of thewhole school system, long-term community meditators, campus
people, andmovement leadership. It was extremely well facilitated
lastingwithin and hour or so such that everyone was asked to speak
andparticipate in a series of rounds around the room where everyone wasasked by
the facilitator who ran the meeting to respond to particular questionsin short
and those comments were captured on whiteboard and posterboards by scribes in
front of everyone to be kept and read throughout the meeting. Starting with a
question something like, in only a few limited words andwithout statement what
do you see the problem is here in thecommunity culture with mental health? 5 or
so words. It went aroundthe room. Then once everything was on the boards in
front ofeveryone came the next question, in a word how do you feel now about
allthat was said? It went around the room to everyone includingmovement
leadership. 'Hopeful' was a common comment among a range offeelings.Lastlarge
question of the group was something like, in five words whatshould be done to
effect change in the communal culture? Again timewas taken to go entirely
around the room and the answers wererecorded by scribes on boards in front of
the whole group to read.That went around the whole room and everything was said
without comment or discussion. It just moved around the room to everyone.
These werepertinent action points. Inthe end of the meeting then everyone was
asked to come forward and physically vote with a limited number of hash-marks
to what they felt were themost important points offered in the meeting. That
data then willsubsequently generate a report with priority for a future
meetingabout what it might take to change the culture of the movement
aroundmental health. It was all very open and very well done. Communal process
to continue,,# #Now, as the science evidently does seem to indicate do take
some quiet time for effective transcendent meditation for the welfare of your
mental health and go forth and havea better day. JaiGuru Dev,-Buck in the Dome
Good for you guys for taking it seriously, it seems to me that for there to be
an actual organisation to confront the issue means there must be quite a
problem. Or is it that the usual therapies and professionals that the average
person goes in search of aren't there due to the self-help nature of the town
generally?
There are many paths to wellness, everyone has to find their own way I think as
we all respond in different ways and have different needs. But as long as they
know have options and won't get ostracised, it's a good step. So a well stocked
library is essential too I think, reading about how problems develop and can be
treated might be a good start for a lot of people, it might familiarise them as
tohow the mind works as opposed to what they've been taught by the TMO which
has a woefully incomplete picture of how the personality works not to mention a
very unhealthy attitude to mental problems to start with. As is evidenced by
the fact that you need to hold meetings about mental health in the first place.
I don't credit this "vedic" treatment plan as being worth the effort, it might
help a few but it'll be because some people are helped just by having someone
to talk to. It depends what the problems are, how they started and how deep
rooted they are. An admission that TM is no panacea for all can only be a good
thing and I'll be interested in any news about how the TMO responds.
Admitting there is a problem is always the first step in conquering it as they
say...
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