salyavin, from my own experience I think that TM is necessary for emotional good health. But it's not sufficient. Just as it's not sufficient to deal with a toothache or a broken finger or a floundering marriage. Anyway, ALL the issues that have been brought up here, have been brought up in these meetings, and often more than once. The whole process is very encouraging and exciting and makes me feel happy to be part of these organization as it goes through its growing pains.
On Sunday, October 26, 2014 8:27 AM, salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : Oh no no no no Sal! Haven't you read Share's gushing posts about what a grand effort the TMO is officially putting forth to combat suicides in Fairfield??? They certainly don't need to admit TM isn't the cure for all things. They are doing all SORTS of fabulous things, all created and orchestrated by the magnificent TMO!! I'm sure we'll see whether what they offer officially is of any worth. Seems to me that if they break down the mystique of TM as the single greatest thing for human development then it will only be a matter of time before someone questions the validity of their position on the unified field of consciousness and all that that entails. Maybe they'll even start to wonder about the ME or yagya's, from small acorns can mighty oaks grow. Or the other way round of course! There is no excuse for continuing to preach an all encompassing world view without any evidence to back it up and still call it a science. Shorn of the religious hyperbole the TMO might become a more realistic school of thought and might do more good in the world when it isn't scaring off anyone who doesn't like the sight of crowns and ranks of chanting Hindoo boys and teaching astrology in schools. From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : salyavin808asks:So,what happened at the meeting, who said what and what are they goingto do about it? DatelineFairfield, Iowa. The meeting? It was one in a continuation ofworking meetings held about mental health in the community that havebeen ongoing for months now most every Tuesday going under theworking banner of the Fairfield Mental Health Alliance. These areworking meetings of people who are interested in being activleyinvolved in helping with communal mental health. On alternatingTuesdays are working committee meetings while on the off Tuesdays isthe large group meeting where the committees bring their work. Thelarger meetings are very business like organized by agenda. A lot hasbeen done [accomplished in very tangible ways] over several months tofacilitate mental health in to the community. The meetings are opento interested people who would be actively involved. They are notgripe sessions where people just hate, bitch and complain, but workingmeetings looking for action steps to work on and facilitate.Different aspects have been focused on and worked on within the ongoing previousmeeting process. Last month before this last meeting the other night was the presentation anddistribution of the campus guideline for psychological healthtreatment. That was a historic meeting and showed the work of a lot of people. This current meeting the other night was a facilitated meeting getting down to the culturalthings that may underlie meditator communal mental health.Everything came on to the table. It was really well facilitated. Evidently it is now time in the process to really consider elements of our culture. There were about 40 people around the room of various ages and rankin the community. The meeting had a cross-section representation of students, graduates of thewhole school system, long-term community meditators, campus people, andmovement leadership. It was extremely well facilitated lastingwithin and hour or so such that everyone was asked to speak andparticipate in a series of rounds around the room where everyone wasasked by the facilitator who ran the meeting to respond to particular questionsin short and those comments were captured on whiteboard and posterboards by scribes in front of everyone to be kept and read throughout the meeting. Starting with a question something like, in only a few limited words andwithout statement what do you see the problem is here in thecommunity culture with mental health? 5 or so words. It went aroundthe room. Then once everything was on the boards in front ofeveryone came the next question, in a word how do you feel now about allthat was said? It went around the room to everyone includingmovement leadership. 'Hopeful' was a common comment among a range offeelings.Lastlarge question of the group was something like, in five words whatshould be done to effect change in the communal culture? Again timewas taken to go entirely around the room and the answers wererecorded by scribes on boards in front of the whole group to read.That went around the whole room and everything was said without comment or discussion. It just moved around the room to everyone. These werepertinent action points. Inthe end of the meeting then everyone was asked to come forward and physically vote with a limited number of hash-marks to what they felt were themost important points offered in the meeting. That data then willsubsequently generate a report with priority for a future meetingabout what it might take to change the culture of the movement aroundmental health. It was all very open and very well done. Communal process to continue,,# #Now, as the science evidently does seem to indicate do take some quiet time for effective transcendent meditation for the welfare of your mental health and go forth and havea better day. JaiGuru Dev,-Buck in the Dome Good for you guys for taking it seriously, it seems to me that for there to be an actual organisation to confront the issue means there must be quite a problem. Or is it that the usual therapies and professionals that the average person goes in search of aren't there due to the self-help nature of the town generally? There are many paths to wellness, everyone has to find their own way I think as we all respond in different ways and have different needs. But as long as they know have options and won't get ostracised, it's a good step. So a well stocked library is essential too I think, reading about how problems develop and can be treated might be a good start for a lot of people, it might familiarise them as tohow the mind works as opposed to what they've been taught by the TMO which has a woefully incomplete picture of how the personality works not to mention a very unhealthy attitude to mental problems to start with. As is evidenced by the fact that you need to hold meetings about mental health in the first place. I don't credit this "vedic" treatment plan as being worth the effort, it might help a few but it'll be because some people are helped just by having someone to talk to. It depends what the problems are, how they started and how deep rooted they are. An admission that TM is no panacea for all can only be a good thing and I'll be interested in any news about how the TMO responds. 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