On 10/27/2014 12:21 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
*From:* salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote :
Translation please. Interesting message, if it means anything.
It's a way of letting super-intelligent machines join in the fun on
FFL, they'll destroy us last if we speak their language.
And they'll destroy those who don't believe they're the one true God
first. Same as the God that believers believe in did, according to the
books they believe are "scriptures."
Wasn't there a little TV series about this? I think it was called
"Battlestar Gallactica" or something like that?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :
01011001 01110101 01110000 00100001
On 10/26/2014 10:46 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those that understand
binary and those that don't.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <sharelong60@...>
<mailto:sharelong60@...> wrote :
Bhairitu, it does seem like everything is binary even at the most
fundamental levels: matter and energy; yin and yang; crest and trough
of waves; impulses traveling via go and stop.
On Sunday, October 26, 2014 11:42 AM, "Bhairitu noozguru@...
[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Funny, you know I hang out around TV circles and forums and I don't
recall anyone saying that "Person of Interest" made history. Perhaps
your grandfatherly crush on Ms Acker is clouding your judgment a bit.
:-D
I caught an episode or two when it started but thought it was typical
formulaic American TV and I had much better things to watch. But as
far as being predictive even the title is something that emerged with
the rise of the American Fascist State after 9/11 with our Nazi-like
Homeland Security and Patriot Act. You're forgetting "A Scanner
Darkly" which predates that show not to mention "1984" and even Fritz
Lang's "Metropolis", not to mention numerous science fiction novels
and short stories. In a way I thought that "Person of Interest" was
trying to acclimatize Americans to the idea of constantly being
watched. Right now they're trying to foment a lot of fear over ISIS
and Ebola to take away even more of our civil liberties. Folks, don't
stand for it.
Of course now we can watch the neighborhood ourselves as more and
more of us get surveillance cameras being that the systems are
affordable and don't require some monthly extortion fee from a
security company. Funny thing there as a kid in the 1950s I would get
the yearly Allied Radio catalog where I would buy electronic kits to
build. But my dream thing to own back then in the late 1950s was a
$300 TV camera they sold. It's main use was for business owners to
hook up to a TV as a security camera. Needless to say I never came up
with the $300.
As for AI, it could very well be a danger. After all the intellect
is binary, just "yes" or "no". At the company I worked for in the
1990s a team was trying to build a product that would emulate human
behavior. They were doing so by processing a long list of memes. I
told them that was too complicated and mentioned that the intellect
was binary and the human mind not that complicated. They thought I
was nuts until one of our project leads came across a graduate paper
published by a Berkeley student which demonstrated just that. The
product shipped with just a few variables which reliably did emulate
human behavior.
Where did my idea come from? Indian philosophy.
On 10/26/2014 03:41 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@...
<mailto:turquoiseb@...> [FairfieldLife] wrote:
The most intelligent examination of AI in the entertainment
world these days is a TV show called "Person Of Interest,"
created by Jonathon Nolan. Nolan is the brother of Christopher
Nolan, and was co-writer of many of his big hits, such as "The
Dark Night," "The Dark Knight Rises," "The Prestige," and the
short story on which his brother's "Memento" was based. He'll
also be the writer of his brother's upcoming "Interstellar,"
already getting great reviews in previews.
"Person Of Interest" made history by predicting a complex
arrangement of computers and closed-circuit TV and surveillance
equipment so vast and so uncontrolled that it could watch
literally every minute of our lives. Interestingly, Nolan did
this and put it on mainstream TV *before* Snowdon blew the
whistle and revealed that the NSA had this ability in real life
and was *already* watching pretty much every moment of our lives.
The main difference in "Person Of Interest" is that the force
behind all of this uber-surveillance is "the machine," an AI
developed by Harold Finch (Michael Emerson from "Lost"). In the
early seasons this AI gains sentience and begins to help Finch
and his associates keep normal people from harm. But in the last
two seasons it's taken a far darker turn, as a competing AI has
entered the picture, and now they are dueling in cyberspace,
trying to establish dominance.
It's actually a fun and entertaining series. I particularly like
Amy Acker as Root, a brilliant computer nerd/psychopath who
first starts as an enemy of "the machine" and who later becomes
its disciple. Yes, disciple. It "sees all, and knows all," so
what, after all, distinguishes it from God?
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From:* "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]"
<mailto:anartaxius@...[FairfieldLife]>
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, October 25, 2014 11:04 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Rise of the Machines
The dangers of human intelligence are known well enough. Maybe
we should try something different? The problem is we are
creating AI, if it mimics us, we can expect it to do the things
we do. Regardless of whether we regard machines as conscious or
not (an unanswered philosophical question), machines can be
aware of their environment in a mechanistic sense (suspiciously
like how we are aware of our environment). A real AI machine
would be a self learner and how dangerous such a machine might
be would probably be determined how autonomously it can function
in the world and how complex its neural net is.
This has been the fodder of science fiction (Colossus:The Forbin
Project; 2001: A Space Odyssey and the Terminator series of
motion pictures) where the technology goes awry. On the other
hand science fiction has positive examples of this (City; The
Bicentennial Man; The City and the Stars; andI Robot to name a
few novels) where artificial intelligence is generally presented
as beneficial in relation to biological organisms.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <jr_esq@...>
<mailto:jr_esq@...> wrote :
Elon Musk warns of the dangers of artificial intelligence. Is
he right?
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102121127?__source=yahoo%7Cfinance%7Cheadline%7Cheadline%7Cstory&par=yahoo&doc=102121127#.
<http://www.cnbc.com/id/102121127?__source=yahoo%7Cfinance%7Cheadline%7Cheadline%7Cstory&par=yahoo&doc=102121127#.>
