I would say that my intuition about people is not always 100% accurate. And
that I prefer to err in the direction of thinking positively of others. Unless
they have demonstrated reasons not to.
From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
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From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
I never felt a negative vibe from Maharishi either when I saw him in person
or when I watched tapes of him. I base my conclusions on that and on the
reports of people I have found to be reliable sources.
We understand, Share. You found Maharishi to be "trustworthy" the same way you
found Marci Shimoff to be "trustworthy" when she claimed falsely in your
presence that she was the best-selling female author of all time.
Have you ever considered the possibility that your intuition or perception in
such matters sucks big-time and that you're just a gullible idiot?
t of meditation and immediately think "forced" or "unnatural" or "contrary to
the natural tendency of the mind" or "causes headaches," those are examples of
the putdown phrases we were trained to teach. The very fact that you associate
them with the word "concentration" shows that they *were* taught, and that
people like you actually believed them.
Compare and contrast to the claim that someone was a CIA agent, just because
Maharishi assumed he or she was. That's just a claim. Nabby has accused ME and
Rick of working for the CIA. Was that true? Can he prove it? Well, Maharishi
did the same thing. His paranoia got the better of him and he just freaked out
and picked some poor schmuck and let loose on him, almost certainly without
reason.
But, because almost all of the people in the room were as brainwashed as you
were, Share, they just believed it, and now repeat it as if it were true. Just
as you are doing.
The fascinating thing is that you're jumping through hoops again, trying to
dispute something that NO ONE WHO EVER SPENT TIME AROUND MAHARISHI WOULD DENY
-- that he often *was* quite negative when talking about people or
organizations he considered his "competitors" or "against him" (because he was
so certifiably paranoid). And that he often "entertained" these negative
obsessions of his for YEARS, as he did with the "Scorpion nation" thang and
with his putdowns of prominent disciples who walked out on him.
All you're doing is demonstrating how little you actually knew the man you're
still brainwashed enough to feel compelled to defend.
From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
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What is "absolute proof" in this context? Are you offering "absolute proof"
about what Maharishi said on TTC about other systems?
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There has never BEEN a "CIA guy," Share.
If Maharishi freaked out and screamed at someone, that was his paranoia acting
itself out, not anything else. Any claim to the contrary unaccompanied by
absolute proof is just the self importance of cultists acting *itself* out.
From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
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The only time I saw something like this was when Maharishi confronted the
CIA guy.
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You never became a TM teacher then, Share. If you had, you would have spent
several weeks memorizing insulting, put-down one-liners to use whenever any
other "competing" technique of meditation in the world was mentioned. (Almost
all of them untrue, BTW.)
How many YEARS did Maharishi "wallow in" his "Scorpion nation" fixation? And
his anti-US, anti-capitalism "Damn democracy" rants? He must have been pretty
"entertained" by these obsessions of his to keep repeating them as long as he
did.
I repeat -- MMY was at best a hypocrite, and at worst, insane. (Although, of
course, he could easily have been both.)
From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
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One key word: entertain. Which in this context means to dwell on, to wallow
in, even to take delight in, negativity. Plus, I never heard Maharishi speak
about other spiritual paths.
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Two words: "Scorpion nation." Five more: "George Bush is a rakshasa."
You obviously never saw Maharishi in person nor listened to any of his tapes if
you believe for an instant that he practiced what he preached about "never
entertaining negativity." That was NEVER true -- even as far back as Squaw
Valley 1968 he couldn't talk about a "competing" spiritual teaching or practice
without dumping on its teachers and everything about it.
Saner persons than you would have looked at this and realized long ago that in
Maharishi they were dealing with at best a hypocrite and at worst an insane
person. Yet you still seem to consider him some sort of expert. Can you explain
to us why you think this? Could it possibly be that the memories of him you're
trying to hard to protect do not have and have never had anything to do with
reality?
From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 12:55 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding
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Soevidently spiritually speaking what Maharishi is saying here is thatif
one entertains a negativity then one commits a negativity on thesubtle. One may
even take on the energetics in the subtle. Negativity in form then it seems is
like an entity lodging in thesystem spiritually. Like a stress snag, an entity,
like some wouldcall a thought-form, energetically stuck in the fabric of the
subtlesystem. There is proly some truth to that. -Buck
DearFFL, Culturallythis particular post below attempting to clarify Maharishi's
teaching onnegativity is really important. It did not just show up here. Andso
accordingly, evidently these TM apostates here like MJ, Turqb, CDBhere having
divorced themselves from things TM are trying to protectwhat they may well
think is their spiritual lives from what they hadexperienced as a culture of
ethical negativity that was TM, so theyseem to say. But yet as these guys
wallow in their stories evenyears later does this not continue to bring on them
their ownnegativity. Quite evidently according to what Maharishi is
teachinghere their own loops in negativity are not really good for theseguys.
It would be more better if they should be silent about thesethings of their
past and not just keep dredging it up. They reallyshould stop all this
negativity for their own good and quite possibly also a largercollective good
of everyone. Om, strike that last comment about thelarger collective good for
it seems that Maharishi actually was nottalking about collective good or
organizations in these earlydiscourse but more specifically individual
spiritual systems. I do hope that theirapostate subtle systems may recover in
field effect and come to someequanimity around their own individual time in
TM.Sincerely,-Buck
Maharishion
Negativity:https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403800
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403804
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dickmays@...> wrote :
Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others
Don't Speak Ill, Remain Pure, 1964
Everyone has to discharge one's duty towards himself and towards spreading of
this meditation in whatever capacity one can. And never undermine any other's
attempt or desires in whatever humble way it may be.
One thing of very great importance: that now when you have been meditating for
some time, purity has grown in life quite a lot. As the mind gains more and
more of the Being, mind becomes more and more pure.
But one thing which you have to be very cautious about is that you don't think
evil of anyone, don't speak ill of anyone. Otherwise speaking ill and thinking
ill of someone, dwelling on the weaknesses of someone, all their bad qualities
come to your heart; [this way] you get your heart and mind spoiled.
So when through meditation, purity is growing in life, we don't invite this mud
from outside to make us impure anymore. We have to be cautious against our
thoughts that we don't think ill of anyone, and we don't do ill to anyone
naturally.
Speaking ill of others is a very bad.... We say it makes the cloth dirty, makes
the whole personality very dirty and impure. That we have to guard against in
our dealings and feelings with people. Very important; very, very important.
It is as important as daily practice of meditation.
In the olden days in India, there was a practice that if some man did some
great sin, then the way to repent it was that he would cover his body with a
cloth like that and will go to any village. Standing out of the village, he
would shout out: my name is such and such, and I come from that village, and I
happened to be doing like that and like that and like that. He would just
announce it and go ahead, and keep on announcing from village to village.
And the effect was: all the people who heard him, if in their evening meetings
with their fellow men, they talk about that, then the contention is that they
partake of his sin and after some time he becomes pure. Just by talking about
the sinner, the people who talk about him share his sin.
This is very dangerous. Someone has done something wrong and if we dwell on
that and talk it over with someone, we have been affected by that sin and we
spread that sin; we partake of his sin and take it upon us.
Anyone who has done any mistake there or there or there, we just don't speak of
it. Otherwise we will only be shrouding ourselves with the sins of others.
Very important, especially now when through this Transcendental Meditation we
are making ourselves more and more full with Being, means more and more full
with purity, then we have to guard against this thing which is very dangerous.
No one thinks that if I am talking ill of someone, then no one thinks that I am
taking over his sin. It is a common practice in the world to simply talk
something wrong done by others. It is just very harmful for us.
Question (inaudible, about newspaper writers?)
They do a great service as far as amending of the wrong is concerned, but as
far as partaking of his sin is concerned, they do partake. They help the sinner
by spreading the news about him and everybody talks about him, and then all of
them partake of the sins. As far as partaking of the sin is concerned, that is
helpful for the sinner.
In Bhagavad Gita, Lord Krishna said to Arjuna at one point [Gita 9:1, see
below] that I am giving you this most secret wisdom because, one condition out
of many that He said was, that you never speak ill of others (anasuya). That is
you don't speak ill of others, for this quality in you I think you deserve this
wisdom, so I give this wisdom to you. Just this quality of not speaking ill of
others.
Out of my own experience, I tell you, in the ashram of my Guru Dev, there were
100s of people, all good disciples. And everyone after all is a human being. No
aspirant is ever perfect. They come to the feet of the master for that
perfection. So everyone has his own failing there and there and there. I had my
own failings, I never knew what were they, but must be because no human is ever
perfect.
One thing I was famous about is that I will not speak ill of anyone. I would
always cherish a hope of his becoming better sooner or later. I would always
cherish a hope.
If someone says: that man has done like that and such a bad man. [I would say:]
“Now that he is in the ashram he will improve.” Always I cherish a hope against
all the wrongs done by all the people.
And the effect that you find today is all this world Movement to bring peace to
every man all around the world; it is a very great thing in the long history of
the world. This great force of purity and strength for spiritual regeneration
of entire mankind, no surprise [that it] is based on the faculty of mind that
will not cherish into the wrongs of others.
Bhagavad Gita 9:1
The Blessed Lord said:
Now I shall fully declare to you, who do not cavil, this the greatest secret,
the knowledge combined with the experience, having known which you will be
freed from evil.
Quote from Upanishads, which was used in Vedic Atom Pledge (1980)
Let us be together,
Let us eat together,
Let us be vital together,
Let us be radiating truth, radiating the light of life,
Never shall we denounce anyone, never entertain negativity.
==================================================
Maharishi on the best principle in life is to find something good in others and
talk about that good
"Always we take a good attitude about a thing. Any situation we try to mean
well. In our heart, in our mind we just take a good aspect of it. Taking like
that a few times, we develop a habit of taking the best out of the thing,
taking the best out of the situation, making the best out of the situation.
Otherwise, it is very easy for us to become so critical: 'That is also not
right,' 'This is also bad,' 'No good,' 'No, no, no.' Everywhere 'no' and 'no,'
and the whole social behavior gets into a muddle.
Because if that attitude becomes a habit, then no matter what comes to us --
'That is no good' -- we will find a negative aspect and condemn it for that
instead of locating a beautiful, good, positive point and accepting it for that.
Always we look upon something due to which we can love that thing, that object,
that situation. Always. Because if someone is a bad man, at least we should
save our heart and our mind by not thinking of the evil doings of his. We will
pick up some one good point in him and then admire him for that one good point.
We don't mind the other dark side of him.
Because if we think of the dark side, we are putting the dark shadow in our
heart and mind. If someone is dark, why should we put their dark shadow in our
heart and mind by thinking about it? He has done something wrong. Why by
thinking of his wrong should we allow that wrong to occupy our heart and mind
and muddle our life?
And therefore, the best principle in life is: Find out something good in him
and talk of that good, that's all. Otherwise, it's very easy when two people
sit and talk about it, 'Look at that, that man, that, that, that.' [Audience
laughter] Without any reason we bring the bad shadows in our heart and mind.
It's lack of skill in viewing things, in commenting on things.
Always we pick up a good point. We feel good about it. If we speak, we radiate
good in the hearts of others. It's very, very necessary that particularly,
particularly with those who are dear to you, when you sit together with them
alone, always talk of some good things here and some good things there and some
good things here. Then the meeting is of a very, very valuable, beneficial
nature.
If you sit together and think of that man like that and that man like that,
[it's a] waste of life. That meeting is a waste. Never with your friends, with
your near ones, with your dear ones do we talk of something negative. Because
so many millions of things are there for us to talk [about], why focus on that
one [negative] point and unnecessarily make ourself miserable and make that man
miserable with whom we are talking?
It's very important that we inculcate a habit of looking at the good points of
others. And it's very easy to do so particularly when we are meditating and we
have more ability to forgive others."
~Maharishi~~Squaw Valley, USA -- August 21, 1968 -- Audiotape~
Jai Guru Dev
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