On 11/14/2014 9:47 AM, Share Long wrote:
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But Bhairitu we humans are pretty good at using anything to keep
ourselves distracted, not just work. I think what's really scary for
the powers that be, is if people get free of fear and the concomitant
need to distract. Then we won't be controllable at all!
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/The purpose of work is to eat; then eating becomes play./
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*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
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Work is not the purpose of life. It's real purpose is to keep you
distracted so you don't overthrow the king. Who elected him boss
anyway? At best there is probably only a couple hours a day of work
that needs to be done. Some of the more tedious and subhuman jobs can
be automated anyway. When I was in India, businessmen were
complaining workers would only work two hours a day. That's all they
needed to survive. Locally an Indian engineer and I discussed the
problem. He thought it was also due to the fact that they couldn't
take more than a couple hours of the heat in the work places.
Parcheesi anyone?
On 11/08/2014 08:04 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
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There's always more work to be done! People may need to develope new
or different skills. Craftsmen that build or repair buggies aren't in
big demand these day, but people that can make or repair cars
are. And people may need to compete for the best jobs. < I'll agree,
education doesn't guarantee a damned thing, but I can almost
guarantee that a lack of education can almost guarantee poverty.
Higher education doesn't have to be a four year college/university
and advanced degrees. It can simply be a good trade school and
learning a valued skill. Hell, having a good attitude and work ethic
can take some people pretty far!
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Thing is that many people who dropped out of high school may turn out
to be very aggressive and fortuitous. Education does not really
guarantee an income. I went to college to learn things not to get a
piece of paper that would guarantee me an income. Being a
professional musician was a tough road to hoe and a very political
one at that. It's not so much what you know but who you know.
So answer me this: if we have all the workers we need and there is no
other work to be done what happens to the rest of the populace? Are
they expected to starve? Another thing: many of the people out of
work aren't high school dropouts, they aren't even college dropouts,
they aren't even inexperienced. In fact many have a lot of senior
experience. They are just shut out of the market because they aren't
"cheap enough" or "too old." Many of these people are brighter than
the richest of the rich and so at some point they may make sure there
is hell to pay. And they can do it.
On 11/08/2014 07:03 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
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Yeah, there's plenty of money hoarders plus plenty to go around ...
for those that want to work for it. Problem is, people that never
finished high school think they deserve a house in the burbs, two
cars,a television set in every room, an Obama phone and make at
least 15 dollars an hour flipping burgers because that's all they're
quailified to do.Soviet citizens had plenty of money that they
hoarded but they didn't have anything to buy with it. No capitalism
, no goodies to buy.
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And with the money hoarders you get "plenty of nothing to go around
except the for the money hoarders." They wind up with the whole
pie. Is that right?
There is a middle ground but to get there the rich will have to
relinquish their control and much of their wealth. Will they do it
or remain the most selfish people in the history of the world?
On 11/08/2014 06:02 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
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So we all end up like the Soviet Union and pre-capitalist China.
Plenty of nothing to go around for everybody. Did you ever see or
hear about the Soviet era enviornment? Plenty of mess to clean up
but no money to do it. But then we will *make* them do it... for
mother Russia!
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Capitalism is like candy and the rich like spoiled kids. They just
want more and more candy. Hence they get fat and cranky and want
their way all the time. What we need to do is take away their candy
from them and let them dry out. Otherwise they become a complete
drag on society.
Free enterprise is not a bad idea about capitalism run amok is very
dangerous. Sometimes you just have to shut things down and spank
the miscreants.
On 11/08/2014 04:46 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
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Wayback, I've read Klein online and found her to be a compelling
writer. But when I think about my Dad and stepMom, staunch
Republicans, I bet they never even heard of Silent Spring or
Rachel Carson. Even though my Dad's a nature lover. Mostly what
they know is being small and successful business owners. They're
gonna choose capitalism over climate every time. My guess is most
Republicans will simply label Klein a liberal and not pay much
attention to what she has to report.
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An important new book just came out about capitalism and climate
change: This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. the Climate, by
Naomi Klein. But the converted, anti SUV folks are probably the
only ones who will read it. The review in today's NY Times called
it the most important environmental book since Rachel Carson's
Silent Spring. (I gave a book report on Silent Spring in high
school, so it made an impression). I will have to pop an
antidepressant before reading Klein's book, which I intend to do
as soon as the library gets it. I think the gist is that
capitalism as we know it cannot continue if we intend to deal with
climate change.