On 11/29/2014 11:57 AM, s3raphita wrote:
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*/Re "filing of actual criminal charges":/*
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Don't US courts refuse to extradite their own citizens to the law in
foreign jurisdictions? Or at least make it damned difficult?
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/The person that should be worried about the law should probably be the
guy that's living as a guest worker in a foreign country, not the ones
playing the word game and living in the U.S.
If he did actually file charges with Interpol, anything he posted
//online concerning this subject is not going to look very good at the
Hague, NE immigration department, no matter how innocent he may be and
just wanted to push a few buttons.
If I were him, I'd just keep my big pie hole shut and just hide out for
awhile and think things over. That's what I did after a few misfits here
accused me of beastiality, being a perv and posing as a pedophile
priest. I don't see anyone on the forum apologizing to me.
But, I never once thought of going to the police to complain. I figure
if you're going to play with fire, you should be able to take the heat
if you get burned or if something backfires on you.
I guess we can pretty well conclude now that there is an informant among
us reporting everything we say to the authorities. I tried to warn
everyone about this for years but nobody wanted to listen.
/
//These episodes would probably never happen if the forum had an active
moderator. It's been obvious to me for years that some of the
respondents on this forum are racists, prejudiced and hypocritical, to
say the least./
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We don't need no revolution - we already had one and the people won.
/All we need to believe in is that we are all equal and that we all have
the same opportunity to get realized, or not. /////
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote :
*From:* salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :
Salyavin, if I apologize, what's included is an intention to avoid
doing the hurtful behavior in the future. Heck we all do awful stuff
sometimes. I think it's a valid part of relating to others that we
acknowledge our part in their upset and then soldier on.
Yes, the operative word here is IF. Trouble is these days a lot of
people think that because they are offended by something it
automatically follows that someone has done something wrong and should
apologise. It seems like simply being offended gives them the right to
control other's opinions. Beats me.
*/Worse, in this Age of New Age Narcissism, they feel that they have
the right to inflict *their* opinions on others. In the most recent
case here on Fairfield Life, my choice of words pushed the buttons of
a few cultists so badly that they began to imagine things about me
that aren't true. This is nothing new, but then -- probably because
they're so USED to taking their own fantasies seriously and treating
them as Truth Incarnate -- they started to act those fantasies out on
this forum and accuse me of things. The things that they have
brainwashed themselves to believe about me aren't true, but they are
volatile enough that if I had allowed them to go unresponded-to, the
resulting libel and defamation could potentially have a negative
impact on my family.
/*
*/Fortunately for me (and unfortunately for the two people who have
chosen to defame me), one of our close family friends here in the
Netherlands IS a cop, and furthermore one who works in the
anti-cyberterrorism group. We know him from a local "Meetup"
discussion group, of which we've all been members for some time.
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*/So yesterday I explained the situation to him and, to my surprise,
his first question to me was, "By any chance, are these people who are
trying to insinuate that you are a child molestor members of a
religious cult?" Somewhat taken aback, I said "Yes," and then he
explained that the reason he asked is that this (using the Internet to
attempt to brand someone as a sex criminal, especially in regard to
children) was a favorite tactic used by cults they are tracking in the
Netherlands (especially $cientology, but also some extreme Christian
cults).
/*
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*/He advised me to take this action by Nabby and Jim Flanegin more
seriously, and walked me through the steps of doing so. Here in the
Netherlands, it's a two-step process. First I notify the proper
division of the police about the cyberstalking, giving them the email
addresses of the stalkers and forwarding to them examples of all
defamatory posts or emails they have sent. This officially puts them
on a "Watch List," and causes Interpol and other agencies to flag any
traffic coming from these addresses for further scrutiny.
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*/This has been done. If they wise up and drop this stupidity, I will
never need to take it to step two, which is the filing of actual
criminal charges. Note that the words "criminal charges" are exact in
this situation -- my friend made it very clear that here in the
Netherlands what they are doing is not a mere civil offense but a crime./*
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*/But the saddest part from my point of view is that neither of these
guys is going to ever feel as if they did anything wrong. THEY were
the ones taking the two words I posted *referring to their spiritual
teacher* and turning them in their heads into some kind of
psychological diagnosis of me. THEY were the ones committing
defamation and libel -- as pointed out earlier, I never once suggested
that Maharishi or anyone else *really* was into fucking babies. THEY
made that up, and about me. My friend the cop -- having seen my
original post and their followups -- tells me that if either of them
persists in this folly, my case against them will be a slam-dunk and
he could put them in prison.
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*/But isn't it amazing that they felt that they had the *right* to do
this in the first place? As Salyavin and others have pointed out (and
my friend the cop suggested as well), this syndrome of "professional
outrage" they wear like a badge of honor is quite possibly a form of
mental illness. Their outrage does NOT give them the right to act out
the fantasies my words inspire in them and harm others. /*
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*From:* salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, November 28, 2014 12:40 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
"If I was the moderator of this group I'd put him on
probation with a very strong warning and demand an apology to
the entire group and until he does I'd limit his participation."
I don't know who wrote the above but it's a familiar part of
modern life that makes me scratch my head.
Seems like every day some celebrity/sports star/politician
says some generally inconsequential thing and immediately
faces endless calls to apologise from the massed ranks of the
professionally offended. Usually via Twitter.
I don't know why they bother, because what good is an
insincere apology? But it's not really about that, what it's
about is control and humiliation. Everyone who complains knows
that the apology is worth nothing and that people don't really
see the error of their ways and swiftly adopt the morals of
the herd, but if they can get someone to say what they want
them to say it makes them happy because their will has been
bent and it acts as a warning to others. Conform or we'll nag
you endlessly. Is this the Internet as the great leveller, or
a growing inability of people to accept that not everyone sees
the world the same way they do?
I knew this girl who was a right arrogant bitch, whenever I
complained about her behaviour she'd just say "I'm sorry
you're offended by what I said" which is marvellous because it
put all the blame on /me/ for /her/ attitude problem. And she
never understood why that drove me crazy, no empathy you see.
I wonder what that's like? But all I know is she wouldn't even
think to wonder.
But if I ever annoy the world and the Twitteratti come banging
on my cyber door for an apology that's what I'd say and see if
any of the dumb fucks notice they've just been insulted further.
