Yahweh was only one of the deities the Jews worshiped. El, short of Elohim was 
another and the two were very different. Both Elohim and Yaweh were pagan gods 
of the Caananites and those who became the Hebrews. The worship of El preceded 
that of Yahweh, but the cult of Yahweh began to supersede that of El and then 
the priests of Yahweh claimed Y told them that Y had been EL all along. 

Just more very human behavior of those who wish to rule others and have THEIR 
god be the bestest god. Read Karen Armstrong's History of God sometime if you 
want some good education.
      From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 4:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: YhWh is Shiva?
   
    Barry,
If you've read any parts of the Old Testament, you will find that Yahweh 
described Himself/Herself/It as IAMWHOAM in Genesis.  Generations of Jews 
believe that the Torah was handed to them by their ancestors.  As such, the 
prophets actually existed in history.
Also, historians and theologians have found that Moses and the prophets existed 
in history.  It's obvious that Moses and the prophets died.  Therefore, they 
can't appear before you.  But, even if they could, why should they appear 
before you?
But apparently you have not done your homework.  You should read the Old 
Testament and the historical analyses regarding the personalities in them.  For 
example, it is accepted by historians and researchers that Moses existed and 
wrote the first five books of the Torah.
You should think before you write.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote :

From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 9:53 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: YhWh is Shiva?
 
 Yahweh is IAMWHOAM and does not have a manifested body although It is known by 
the Hebrew prophets.  On the other hand, Shiva has a manifested form and is 
known to have a wife in Parvati.

JohnR, I'll follow up on this because it raises the very issue I just posted 
about to Lawson. You're using the language of *assertion*, as if the things you 
are asserting are FACT. Why shouldn't that be considered the very 
Fundamentalism you've suggested in other contexts isn't a good thing?

Don't you think that in the interest of fairness you should refer to all of 
these characters as what they are -- fictional? Or at the very least you should 
probably specify that what you are talking about are things that some people 
*believe*, but that do not come anywhere near the definition of fact. If you 
disagree that these characters ARE fictional, you know that all you have to do 
is show them to us. Right?
My point -- as it often is -- is that sloppy language is an indication of 
sloppy thinking. 




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