On 12/10/2014 9:55 AM, Share Long wrote:
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Richard, I simply meant that even people outside of "spiritual"
communities know the popular phrase what goes around comes around.
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Of course, everyone knows that - it's written in the Bible. It's just
that we can't fully understand using the intellect how bad people don't
always get punished and sometimes the good people have to suffer. Also,
if we accept the law of karma there would be no exceptions - no free will.
Personally, I accept the law of cause and effect and the law of karma
and purposely don't go around doing bad things. The key to the law of
karma is to do good things without expecting anything in return - that's
Karma Yoga. Do good for the benefit of all but do not be attached to the
fruits of your actions. I simply believe in Life - what it does to you,
and what you do back. It's not complicated.
/"Unfathomable are the laws of karma!"/
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On 12/9/2014 11:32 AM, Share Long wrote:
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For those who don't like the word karma, there's always the popular
phrase: what goes around comes around (-:
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Indeed, Share. For those that don't like the word /"karma"/ there is
always the phrase /"cause and effect"./ Or, put more simply,
/"Causation or Causality"/ or for those who don't even understand
this, there is always - /"one thing leads to another."/
The question then arises: Is their also a moral reciprocity?
According to Georg Fuerstien, /"India's sages assure us that this law
applies with equal force in the realm of the mind to our thoughts and
volition."/ But, because science looks only at the material realm, it
fails to appreciate the comprehensive nature of causation and
therefore also allows for meaningless chance events.
The Causal Nexus is the root of our limited and limiting experience of
space and time As simple as this view seems to be, it is at the same
time, very deep and subtle. Not easily understood by the un-reflective
individual who only makes comments without thinking them through. Go
figure.
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On 12/9/2014 6:48 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
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I don't buy the existence of karma itself. It started with the
ancient Indians and spread from there to China and Japan via Buddhism.
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/What happens when you drop a big rock on your toe? All things fall
down because gravity sucks. Maybe you failed to think this thought
before hitting the Send key./
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I mean, if this is the reality of life, how come only the ancient
Hindus figured it out? Because they lived in the land of the veda?
All the other ancient civilizations too stupid to figure it out?
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The Vedas were composed long after the theory of karma was first
formulated. The realization that a big rock falling on your toe is
hurtful was probably figured out long before the Stone Age.
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Nope, its just some more bullshit made up by those ganja smokers
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Non sequitur.
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in the woods who claimed enlightenment. What better way to control
the population than to tell them that all sorts of awful things
would happen to you in an infinite number of lives if you didn't
grease the palms of the priests so they would do the ceremonies to
placate the gods and the gods of karma?
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You neglected to define "karma" and so you have committed a formal
fallacy of deductive reasoning. You have failed to follow the rules
of logic that guarantee a true conclusion follows given the truth of
the premises." Therefore you have determined your own argument to be
invalid."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informal_fallacy
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There are a few people like Michael Roads and Anita Moorjani who
either leave their body or have some sort of visions where they see
that all is just fine with all the shit that happens all over the
earth - no karma, no judgment on the part of the Universe towards
any of the awful things humans do. Not that they necessarily have a
lock on truth, but it is an interesting differing perspective.
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Non sequitur.
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The current popular belief in karma and its originating culture is
due to the ravings of proven huckster Helena Blavatsky who
popularized Hindu beliefs in the 1800's that carried over into the
20th century through her outfit The Theosophical Society and the
bullshit writings of her compatriots Annie Besant and Alice Bailey.
Not to mention the pedophile C.W. Leadbeater who created the myth of
Maitreya now perpetuated by that nice old faker Benjy Creme.
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Non sequitur.
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Lie begets lie, and bs begets bs. Nope, I don't buy the existence of
karma. If it was real, I think others beside the Hindus and their
predecessors would have figured it out too. Given the sorry legacy
India has so far offered the world (just look at the country today
and don't bother mentioning the mythical "vedic society" that liar
Marshy used to blabber about) I don't think I am going to give much
credence to anything that country comes up with in terms of
religion, philosophy or any sort of guidelines with which to live life.
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Non sequitur.
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Can't wait for Buck to denounce me for this post.
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Non sequitur.
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