--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: <snip> > > So it seems to me that I'm "judging" my state of > > consciousness by exactly the criterion Michael suggests-- > > not by flashy experiences or noticing witnessing or > > behaving better, but: > > > > "In enlightenment our actions are spontaneously right. > > Before enlightenment our actions are strained, but > > still right. All that happens is that the sense of > > strain disappears. But that's a dramatic shift." > > > > I still have a sense of strain. > > > > Or to put it another way: It's not that I have > > expectations of what enlightenment is like; it's > > that I expect it *not* to be like ignorance. > > > > (Yes, yes, I know, nirvana = samsara and all that. > > But I don't think that's a useful maxim pre-nirvana.) > > > Well, thank you for this exchange. Yep, you are right, it is that > strain which appears to be the chief indicator of where we are vis > a vis realization. The good news is, as Michael says, that it is > not the distance we may imagine it is, in order to get from here to > there.
Thanks to you too. I'm honestly not thinking of it as a huge distance. I just would like to be able to say "I'm not enlightened yet" and not have somebody contradict me. ;-) ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
