---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <curtisdeltablues@...> wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote : Re: "This was an attempt to put people down..." This is what it really was in my view...an attempt to offend, an abusive attempt to offend, using the worst three words possible. BW is famous for vicious slurs, but this one takes the cake. What freaks me out is that the way so many responded here was to start trying to smooth it all over and dismantle and dismiss it. More "bleaching of the cloth" needed, imho. C: It is fascinating that you are following Jim's misdirection lead on this. The attempt to put people down was in the inended content which was that people with a cult mindset will excuse their leaders for ANY bad behavior. I saw it happen many times when I was in the movement. EM: No, I am not following Jim's lead on this. This is my own opinion. Give me a little credit for thinking for myself. I am aware of the phenomenon where those in a cult excuse their leaders - they are "brainwashed" into this and have given up their free will, imho, and simply stated. EM: It doesn't change the reality that BW chose to state his point (that he has made many times over and over and over here), using language that is so over-the-top egregious and downright disgusting and painful to even read, that it caused outrage to the nth degree. And, no apology was forthcoming for such a thing - how arrogant, don't you think? C: The hyperbole he used would have been long forgotten if it had not been appropriated by a malicious agenda. Barry used it once in a specific context. Then Jim and Nabbie have repeated in headings. If you are just offended by the actual words and the image it invokes you would be just as offended by those who are using it for their personal agendas. EM: In this case, objectively, I don't see it as an issue of "personal agenda." I see it as an honest and real response to the words and, god-forbid, image, for those that are visual. So I am thinking that it is not really the words used that offends you. It is who used them. EM: Nope, in this case it is most certainly the words that offended me and had they been stated by anyone else here, I would have the same reaction. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <reverse_archery@...> wrote : Right on. Barry needs to watch himself around the children. His lack of accountability, and ridiculous threats are a huge red flag. Why there are those who enable him this way, I'll never know. I don't believe for a minute this was some sort of 'fealty test', for followers of Maharishi. This was an attempt to put people down as Barry has been doing all his life, and yet, his choice of subject matter may reveal other tendencies in him, that he tries mightily to keep hidden. I think we can count on him pulling his cowardice number now, and disappearing for awhile.:-) Whew. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote : Geezus....BW is the one who wrote those three words....heinous and illegal....the fact that those three words were even able to be generated in his consciousness is disturbing and disturbed ALL, is my guess, on some level, except those that are unable to *feel.* And, now for some reason, it's the person who most vociferously opposed those three words and the person who wrote them in writing that is being attacked? Get a grip, get real. BW can issue an apology at any time; it isn't too late, yet, for him to take a little accountability for himself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <curtisdeltablues@...> wrote : Two issues. Our opinions about what people want to post about here, and a clear line of safety concerning certain content meant to hurt people's reputation offline. Calling someone an assclown is an entirely different insult than accusing someone of illegal activity. And it is even more critical for a topic like child welfare where people can lose their rational minds and go after someone ala Salem witch trial. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <j_alexander_stanley@...> wrote : I think that people who continued slinging insults at Jim, even after he'd left, demonstrate just as much addiction to conflict online. BOTH sides need to get the fuck over each other. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <curtisdeltablues@...> wrote : Jim's post is a serious breach of the FFL guidelines and provides a chilling precedent for online slander meant to cause harm to someone in their real life. I hope anyone who agrees will first delete the slanderous message in the post before commenting. This is way over the line. I almost commented when Jim used a heading with an inflammatory statement just as Nabbie did in his little FU to FFL when he left. I believe it was maliciously intended to get the newsgroup in trouble with Yahoo. But this post is clearly meant to hurt Barry in his real life with a phrase taken out of context. The original context of Barry's hyperbole was to show something so universally considered heinous, that no one would miss his point that people in a cult mindset can overlook what is WRONG. In context it refers to cultural norms and reinforces them concerning child welfare. The intended use was obvious. For Jim to take it out of its context as if it revealed something else is a chilling use of misinterpretation to hurt someone's reputation online. Having been he victim of this myself here I understand how helpless you can feel when this is going on. I needed Rick's help and I got it, and I greatly appreciate that support for my free speech in safety here. I also want to comment on this misuse of a serious topic for a personal vendetta online. It is the lowest form of a get someone at any cost mentality to use child welfare as a pawn in a gotchya game online. By trivializing it by using someone's statement out of context, we add to the static that obscures real harm. People become numb to the accusation when it is misused this way. And in that maliciously generated cacophony, we miss real harm done to real kids by real bad people. I am against Jim's misappropriation of this topic on these grounds also. To pretend his malicious misuse of what Barry wrote is in support of child welfare is the sickest kind of cynicism. Hiding behind this topic to do harm to someone else here is disgusting. Finally, both Buck and Jim have demonstrated that all their faux objections to contentious exchanges here are just that. They are both addicted to conflict online and must leave their other forum to cause trouble here. While I find Bucks constant baiting and trolling obnoxious, it does not violate the reasonable terms of use here. Jim's post did. It makes this an unsafe place to post our opinions if people are allowed to make such real life damaging accusations based on nothing but their own bile and misrepresentation. I hope this forum will be safe place to post in 2015. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote :
