--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> > I'm more radical; I don't think the term
> > 'enlightenment'
> > should be used at all.  It's lost any useful
> > meaning.
> > If one insists on using it, defining it in terms of 
> > behavior could be misleading and illusory, because
> > all 
> > of the traits you list above can be (and have been)
> > faked.
> > 
> > The bottom line for me is that realization is a
> > purely
> > subjective experience.  People seem to want to
> > objectify
> > it, to come up with some measuring stick for it.  I 
> > don't think they'll ever find one.
> 
> Agreed. I would argue that the value of a description
> of enlightenment lies in its ability to help those who
> have just become enlightened. It gives the rather
> confused mind a set of conceptual tools to help
> clarify what is going on. This same description
> provides only entertainment and inspiration for those
> in waking state. Also, more germane to your other
> post, and a nod to Akasha, no one person's description
> of enlightenment is the only description. While there
> is certainly overlap, there is also uniqueness.  
> 
> 

"There are at least as many valid interpretations of the Veda as 
there are enlightened persons..."

There's also MMY's exposition on a "mahasutra" which is required to 
enable the intellect to understand and accept Unity.





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