Well, one could certainly empathize with someone standing by monitoring and then in the middle of a firefight between a bunch of bikers. At a point it is just plain self-defense to shoot or be shot in the moment. Put yourself in the middle of a rough looking people all wearing vests who are shooting at each other with heavy caliber weapons. Once order is set in you betcha the cops shouted, “Hands up, Don't Shoot!”. We could use some assertion of moderation around here too.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : HANDS UP DON"T SHOOT! BIKER LIVES MATTER! From: "richard@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot outs... How ironic - the death toll from the “Twin Peaks” shootout was greater than the total number of homicides Waco police investigated in all of 2014 – And all of the “Twin Peaks” dead were shot by police. The cops fired thousands of rounds into the bikers, killing nine. Only 3 or 4 of the bikers were armed with handguns. This can be summed up in one word: Waco. "Who shot at whom first; who did or did not pull the trigger; and what might have spurred the 14 police officers to fire “thousands of rounds” at a group of 3 to 5 potentially armed bikers when the downrange backdrop was a patio filled with hundreds of unarmed bikers is not yet known..." http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/05/21/waco-twin-peaks-shooting-updates-14-police-officers-fired-thousands-of-rounds-on-200-bikers-killing-9-wounding-18-two-thirds-of-those-arrested-had-no-prior-criminal-history/ http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/05/21/waco-twin-peaks-shooting-updates-14-police-officers-fired-thousands-of-rounds-on-200-bikers-killing-9-wounding-18-two-thirds-of-those-arrested-had-no-prior-criminal-history/ Quoting "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>: > Actually, has aspects of culture not unlike what was/is the world > inside the TMO capital staff. I interviewed someone earlier today who > worked inside the capital as full time staff during the 1980's and > early 90's. They all lived in a frat on campus, had a hierarchy and > code of conduct. > > > "From the outside, biker culture seems incomprehensible, a violent > mash of hyper-macho tribalism, ..To the bikers themselves, their > world makes perfect sense. It has a code of honor. It has hierarchy, > discipline, thrills and camaraderie ..Their world has unwritten rules > that everybody knows and has predictable consequences for stepping > out of line." -Washington Post > > > > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > <richard@...> wrote : > > Richie died, then Diesel, then Dog: An eyewitness to the Waco biker > brawl > http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/richie-died-then-diesel-then-dog-an-eyewitness-to-the-waco-biker-brawl/2015/05/23/00db6436-1a8a-469b-9d6f-d2283234d281_story.html > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/richie-died-then-diesel-then-dog-an-eyewitness-to-the-waco-biker-brawl/2015/05/23/00db6436-1a8a-469b-9d6f-d2283234d281_story.html > > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/richie-died-then-diesel-then-dog-an-eyewitness-to-the-waco-biker-brawl/2015/05/23/00db6436-1a8a-469b-9d6f-d2283234d281_story.html > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/richie-died-then-diesel-then-dog-an-eyewitness-to-the-waco-biker-brawl/2015/05/23/00db6436-1a8a-469b-9d6f-d2283234d281_story.html > > Richie died, then Diesel, then Dog: An eyewitness to the... > http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/richie-died-then-diesel-then-dog-an-eyewitness-to-the-waco-biker-brawl/2015/05/23/00db6436-1a8a-469b-9d6f-d2283234d281_story.html > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/richie-died-then-diesel-then-dog-an-eyewitness-to-the-waco-biker-brawl/2015/05/23/00db6436-1a8a-469b-9d6f-d2283234d281_story.html > A Cossack biker says his club had been invited to make peace with rivals. > Then the shooting > started. > > > > View on www.washingtonpos http://www.washingtonpos/... > http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/richie-died-then-diesel-then-dog-an-eyewitness-to-the-waco-biker-brawl/2015/05/23/00db6436-1a8a-469b-9d6f-d2283234d281_story.html > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/richie-died-then-diesel-then-dog-an-eyewitness-to-the-waco-biker-brawl/2015/05/23/00db6436-1a8a-469b-9d6f-d2283234d281_story.html > Preview by Yahoo > > > > > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > <richard@...> wrote : > > According to the founder of the Bandidos Motorcycle Club, the > members are not a "gang" - they are just ordinary people who like > motorcycles and riding. > > The over-reaction of the Waco police will probably wind up > bankrupting the police department. I predict that millions of dollars > will be paid out to innocent bystanders arrested at the event. > > > Some law enforcement members seem to never learn from their > mistakes. It is illegal to arrest citizen based on mere profiling. > Apparently some bike enthusiasts got arrested for wearing Harley > Davidson vests. Go figure. > WACO — After a gunfight between rival motorcycle gangs outside a > crowded restaurant left nine dead, police rounded up everyone on the > scene wearing biker vests... > > > Waco prosecutors face difficult task in deadly biker gang shootout > http://www.dallasnews.com/news/state/headlines/20150523-waco-prosecutors-have-work-cut-out-for-them-in-biker-gang-shootout.ece > > http://www.dallasnews.com/news/state/headlines/20150523-waco-prosecutors-have-work-cut-out-for-them-in-biker-gang-shootout.ece > > > http://www.dallasnews.com/news/state/headlines/20150523-waco-prosecutors-have-work-cut-out-for-them-in-biker-gang-shootout.ece > > http://www.dallasnews.com/news/state/headlines/20150523-waco-prosecutors-have-work-cut-out-for-them-in-biker-gang-shootout.ece > > Waco prosecutors face difficult task in deadly biker gan... > http://www.dallasnews.com/news/state/headlines/20150523-waco-prosecutors-have-work-cut-out-for-them-in-biker-gang-shootout.ece > > http://www.dallasnews.com/news/state/headlines/20150523-waco-prosecutors-have-work-cut-out-for-them-in-biker-gang-shootout.ece > Self-defense laws and witness credibility will make prosecuting defendants > in the shootout challenging, experts say. “Prosecutors often overreach and > charg... > > > > View on www.dallasnews.com http://www.dallasnews.com/ > http://www.dallasnews.com/news/state/headlines/20150523-waco-prosecutors-have-work-cut-out-for-them-in-biker-gang-shootout.ece > > http://www.dallasnews.com/news/state/headlines/20150523-waco-prosecutors-have-work-cut-out-for-them-in-biker-gang-shootout.ece > Preview by Yahoo > > > > > > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : > > Ummmm, calling them thugs is giving them a bit more credit than they > deserve. Clowns might be more appropriate. > > From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" > <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 7:53 AM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot outs... [2 > Attachments] > > > [Attachment(s) > https://us-mg6.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=12uu24dderqlf#TopText > https://us-mg6.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=12uu24dderqlf#TopText > from TurquoiseBee included below] > Thugs in costume: > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 2:38 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot outs... > > > > Like on FFL, > ..In a sociology looking for brotherhood the motorcycle gangs > flourish within our larger civil society it seems like a number of > old meditators arriving on Rick Archer's yahoo-groups list had come > in to gang-bang hoping for connection with old lost fraternity and > hook their latent bad characteristics with the lawlessness allowed > for inside. Really interesting reporting now about the culture of the > motorcycle gangs. Asocial Ex-military and ex-law enforcement types > hoping for brotherhood, as thugs in costume. > > > http://onpoint.wbur.org/2015/05/19/the-biker-gangs-of-texas > http://onpoint.wbur.org/2015/05/19/the-biker-gangs-of-texas > http://onpoint.wbur.org/2015/05/19/the-biker-gangs-of-texas > http://onpoint.wbur.org/2015/05/19/the-biker-gangs-of-texas > > > http://onpoint.wbur.org/2015/05/19/former-bike-gang-member-explains > http://onpoint.wbur.org/2015/05/19/former-bike-gang-member-explains > http://onpoint.wbur.org/2015/05/19/former-bike-gang-member-explains > http://onpoint.wbur.org/2015/05/19/former-bike-gang-member-explains > > > > > > > > > > > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : > > Tragedy in Texas again in Texas. I should feel the group meditation > numbers must have been low that day in Texas. Nice summer Sunday day > and Texas meditators proly skipped out on their meditation. I bet a > lot of these gang members proly started smoking cigarettes early in > their incoherent lives and we know now by science what that has led > to as a gateway to this destructive outburst of behavior. -Be still > and meditate, let there be peace. > > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > <richard@...> wrote : > > There must be thousands of Neo-Nazi skin-head bikers over there in > the Netherlands, but apparently they don't have any weapons. I mean, > it's one thing to be unarmed and riding a ten-speed, but it's another > thing entirely when a biker has no Twin Peaks to go to for a fight. > > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > <turquoiseb@...> wrote : > > Afterwards they all went out for coffee and pie. > > And, you would know this how? > > > From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 12:42 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Twin Peaks shoot out... > > > > Sounds like natural selection to me... > > > A police officer has described the horrific scene of a shoot-out > between biker gangs in Texas > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-biker-gang-shooting-police-officer-describes-scene-outside-waco-restaurant-as-most-gruesome-crime-scene-ive-seen-in-34-years-10257126.html > > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-biker-gang-shooting-police-officer-describes-scene-outside-waco-restaurant-as-most-gruesome-crime-scene-ive-seen-in-34-years-10257126.html > > > > > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-biker-gang-shooting-police-officer-describes-scene-outside-waco-restaurant-as-most-gruesome-crime-scene-ive-seen-in-34-years-10257126.html > > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-biker-gang-shooting-police-officer-describes-scene-outside-waco-restaurant-as-most-gruesome-crime-scene-ive-seen-in-34-years-10257126.html > > A police officer has described the horrific scene of a s... > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-biker-gang-shooting-police-officer-describes-scene-outside-waco-restaurant-as-most-gruesome-crime-scene-ive-seen-in-34-years-10257126.html > > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-biker-gang-shooting-police-officer-describes-scene-outside-waco-restaurant-as-most-gruesome-crime-scene-ive-seen-in-34-years-10257126.html > A police officer who witnessed the aftermath of a shootout between rival > biker gangs in Texas has described it as “one of the most gruesome crime > scene... > > > > View on www.independent.co.uk http://www.independent.co.uk/ > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-biker-gang-shooting-police-officer-describes-scene-outside-waco-restaurant-as-most-gruesome-crime-scene-ive-seen-in-34-years-10257126.html > > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-biker-gang-shooting-police-officer-describes-scene-outside-waco-restaurant-as-most-gruesome-crime-scene-ive-seen-in-34-years-10257126.html > Preview by Yahoo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 12:42 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Twin Peaks shoot out... > > > > Sounds like natural selection to me... > > > A police officer has described the horrific scene of a shoot-out > between biker gangs in Texas > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-biker-gang-shooting-police-officer-describes-scene-outside-waco-restaurant-as-most-gruesome-crime-scene-ive-seen-in-34-years-10257126.html > > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-biker-gang-shooting-police-officer-describes-scene-outside-waco-restaurant-as-most-gruesome-crime-scene-ive-seen-in-34-years-10257126.html > > > > > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-biker-gang-shooting-police-officer-describes-scene-outside-waco-restaurant-as-most-gruesome-crime-scene-ive-seen-in-34-years-10257126.html > > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-biker-gang-shooting-police-officer-describes-scene-outside-waco-restaurant-as-most-gruesome-crime-scene-ive-seen-in-34-years-10257126.html > > A police officer has described the horrific scene of a s... > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-biker-gang-shooting-police-officer-describes-scene-outside-waco-restaurant-as-most-gruesome-crime-scene-ive-seen-in-34-years-10257126.html > > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-biker-gang-shooting-police-officer-describes-scene-outside-waco-restaurant-as-most-gruesome-crime-scene-ive-seen-in-34-years-10257126.html > A police officer who witnessed the aftermath of a shootout between rival > biker gangs in Texas has described it as “one of the most gruesome crime > scene... > > > > View on www.independent.co.uk http://www.independent.co.uk/ > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-biker-gang-shooting-police-officer-describes-scene-outside-waco-restaurant-as-most-gruesome-crime-scene-ive-seen-in-34-years-10257126.html > > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-biker-gang-shooting-police-officer-describes-scene-outside-waco-restaurant-as-most-gruesome-crime-scene-ive-seen-in-34-years-10257126.html > Preview by Yahoo > > > > > > > > > > > > (Message over 64 KB, truncated)
