THIS is why Chopra and other nutcases like him (including several on this
forum) still exist. The audiences they preach to don't have the intelligence to
figure out they're being preached to (and taken advantage of) by idiots. (cf.
recent bogus "research" about light)
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From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 7:49 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good Ol' Deepak
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <s3raphita@...> wrote :
What Deepak is promoting is a philosophy - a theology, maybe - or perhaps "a
metaphysics" is a better term. I don't have any problem with that. His views
could be wrong of course but to demand that all explanations of life, the
universe and everything must conform to scientific methodology is simply
scientism. In fact, the very idea that all explanations must conform to
scientific methodology *is* a metaphysical assumption! How could you prove that
assumption using the techniques of science? How falsify it?
Yes, if you're talking about evolution or quantum physics you have to
accommodate the latest thinking of scientists who have specialised in those
fields but it's legitimate to tease out the implications for our worldview.
By the way: I've only ever read one of Deepak's books and it was pretty tedious
and shallow. But that's a different issue altogether.
Why would he release only one shallow and tedious book do you think?
"His views could be wrong of course but to demand that all explanations of
life, the universe and everything must conform to scientific methodology is
simply scientism."
Isn't "scientism" that thing that creationists invented to try and turn the
demanding of proof into an optional extra?
Like you, I don't think there's anything wrong with speculative thinking, we
simply wouldn't have an ideas at all without it. Where Deepak goes wrong is
that he can't be bothered to check whether his ideas have any sort of validity.
And by that I mean whether they fit in with what is known to be possible in the
physical world and if they don't, how come? Any rewriting of majorly well
tested ideas requires an understanding of those ideas and a demonstration of
where they are inadequate. I don't think it's just a case of accepting things
because they might be possible anymore. I know it's the "vedic" way, as is
misappropriating other people's research to repackage religious ideas in the
hope that your audience is familiar enough with the terms to recognise them but
not familiar enough to know they are being used incorrectly. Anything he says
with the word "quantum" in it for instance.
He just doesn't seem to know what he's talking about.You simply can't have a
worldview whereby something that is known to happen, or to have happened is
contradicted by your metaphysical outlook. Not and remain credible. It has to
all fit together doesn't it? Otherwise our theory of everything will be a
theory of nearly everything and some other stuff that doesn't fit. So Deepak is
either hopelessly ignorant or wilfully misleading - unless he knows something
fundamental to the running of the universe that no one else has worked out and
he acquired the knowledge somehow instinctively rather than via the usual
methods of trial and error testing and refining. Given our shared opinion of
him, I wonder which is most likely?
'This is what drives people nuts about the new quasi-religious quantum
nutjobbery of the internet. Without an editor it's a dangerous place to try
going to learn things. Every idea should stand or fall based on it's evidence
but too many people are forgetting to do the background checks. It's actually
interesting watching the speed with which memes evolve on the net. I used to
work for a company that could track press releases via webpages, be interesting
to watch how far and fast an idea like some of Deepak's or say, the Maharishi
Effect, could travel in a given time and what is needed as a framework for
people to recognise it as a possibility and pass it on.
Maybe the next step in advertising is seeding the social media background with
stupid ideas and then tailoring a campaign to exploit them. Or is Facebook
already doing that?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :
Scientist: Why Deepak Chopra is driving me crazy
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