Note that 'Buck' does not appear in the data Yahoo now posts on the group, nor
does it appear in the e-mail. And what do we do if someone's real name is part
or the whole of their e-mail address, or if the person signs off with their
real name somewhere in the e-mail and does not care, and we respond to that?
What if we repost an older post and the person's real name was in that? Buck is
a nickname, but I assume others might use it where you live. I sometimes use
the full e-mail address name, but not the company name (yahoogroups.com for
example). What if a person wants to use their real name, are they prohibited?
Please clarify.
Summary of this message
- person's real name in e-mail address
- person wants to use real name
- person wants to use a nickname that people in real life call him/her by
- person's real name appears in older posts
- person doesn't care if real name is used
- person's real name is posted by person somewhere in e-mail (deliberately)
Sincerely,
Xenophaneros Anartaxius From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 5:00 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] On Gratuitous invasions of privacy
“ ..anddon't invade other people's privacy.”
Ingoing forward in accord with Rick's original intent for protectingprivacy on
FFL know that in responding [replying] to posts made onFFL an unsolicited use
of someone's legal name on FFL is an invasionof privacy as it also is
considered a violation of the yahoo-groupsguidelines here. Expect to have your
writing removed from FFL. Expect to have your posts moderated. Expect to have
your membershiprevoked if such invasion of people's privacy continues either as
byimpulse without intent or with meditated intent to abuse someone byinvasion
of privacy as used in method.
Forinstance, as people signing on to FFL do post and people do respondwith
replies then for example in reply: 'Turqb isTurqb', 'Fleetwoodis Fleetwood',
'CDB is CDB', 'Serious is Serious', 'Buck is Buck', 'Nablusoss is Nablusoss',
and 'Authfriend is Authfriend'. Whatevertheir legal names in life may be, now
going forward you shall bemoderate in this as Rick originally intended. Show
self-restraintand respect for other people's privacy here. Simple. That is part
ofthe communal collaboration asked for in making this a particularfree-speech
zone as it was hoped for. Have a nice day, -JaiGuruYou
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote :
Thanks A., good to know. In going forward with moderation on FFL, protection of
privacy has always been a mainstay feature of FFL as Rick's free speech list.
This feature of protection has been under siege and fallen to a form of a
disrespect used by some writers on FFL. Everyone take this as a warning right
now going forward: where someone posting to the list uses an anonymous screen
name it is quite proper form on FFL as a yahoo-group to respond to posts using
a person's screen name and make no mention of their real name otherwise.
-JaiGuruYou!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfri...@yahoo.com> wrote :
Please ignore what he says about me. He has it completely wrong.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote :
Serious_Richardbrings up in this particular thread an important point about
privacyon FFL. From the beginning Rick has been intent on creating asafe-space
of privacy for folks to post on FFL. Rick's principlesin creating safe-space
have been under attack, degraded andmethodically violated by some writers here
evidently to abuse or intimidateother folks personally who have been members of
the community of FFL.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote :
Thanksfor offering this, Serious. Yes I feel this is an excellent examplethat
you offer of precedence in how to directly moderate a list thathas gone so bad
like this. I shall make note of it and emulate Rickin this as much as possible.
The yahoo-groups guidelines themselvesare quite simple and require of writers
only some self-control. -JaiGuruYou!
Just for the record, I should point out that Rick banned me from the group
without sending me a single message or email explaining why. So, I appealed to
him and he reinstated my posting privileges. Apparently an informant objected
to my using their real name, although they had previously posted under their
real name. Go figure.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote :
Sad news.
The really sad part of this is that [] has not apologized to me for over two
decades for posting my real name on a.m.t. Go figure.
But, this brings up an interesting subject. From what I've read, <authfriend>
has never used her real name on FFL, so I guess that everyone that ever used
her real name should be banned from the group. That would include almost
everyone currently posting. Can anyone spell cognitive dissonance?
Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist on
a few guidelines for *him* when he does this.
I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things
that aren't really there.
So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he
thinks this poster needs to be banned.
Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar
because they can't post any more, either to complain or to defend themselves.
I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the kingdom.
I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just suggesting a
procedure that insures he can't do it in secret.
From: "j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop with
respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning piqued my
curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator yesterday
afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in terms of enforcement.
As for me, my role will not change.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
ThanksR-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded empathy
in experiencefor the well-being of FFL.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <reverse_archery@...> wrote :
Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your
first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something,
given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you
all the best in your new role...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
'Don'tbe Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightenedin
their guidance.
Forinstance,
“Ifone is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. Bynegative
thinking, feeling and acting one creates dark patches andmuddy colors in the
aura which, in turn, prevent the flow of God'screative energy from reaching
him. Without the light of God, thebody starts of manifest various imbalances
and one's health andlifespan is compromised. Turning to vitamins, minerals and
excesssunlight does not help because the body is primarily sustained bycosmic
current.” -Charles Lutes, Will and Desire, 5/3/91
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <reverse_archery@...> wrote :
Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for
creating a "free speech zone", you must be aware that, contrary to the
thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the
guidelines. Nothing to be proud of.
The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion,
about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous
solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums,
mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and
yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <j_alexander_stanley@...> wrote :
Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick
asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions,
keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content that would
get FFL categorized as an adult group, where it would be much less visible on
the 'net. For a time, I was also tasked with enforcing the moronic posting
limit.
WRT colloidal silver, I would only add that it should not be taken on a regular
basis, and even at 20 PPM, no more than 6oz should be taken per day.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :
[] is supposed to be the moderator, but he mostly is busy making colloidal
silver and cooking meat at low temps for a loooooong time (wish I had some
now). Personally I like his post on what he cooks better than I would any
moderation stuff. And I appreciated him giving me the info on his silver maker.
So thus far, I am quite pleased at the moderate role [] plays as moderator.
From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <reverse_archery@...> wrote :
Moderation ain't working, Doug, or haven't you noticed? There basically is NO
moderation on this forum. Rick has encouraged us all to ponder these deep
questions, but when it attracts trolls, he bails. No problem now that I have
adjusted, but let's please not act as if someone is EVER going to do anything
per the Yahoo Guidelines here. It is imo a useless thing to bring up at this
point.
I thought you left? Left to start a group with moderation? Why not stay there
if you can't cope with being here? Why the endless whining? Is it some sort of
denial of service for the people who actually like it here? Are you on some
sort of mission to save us from ourselves? You are the irritating troll, do you
understand? You and your mates who also never contribute anything. Go away.
Nothing is going to change here because we like chatting and having fun. Go
away and stop spoiling it. You and your mates are tedious beyond words. Go
away.
You are the trolls. Go away.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
Itis true the original post by Turqb was the meme of a slur inviolation of the
Yahoo-groups guidelines and should have beenmoderated simply then by the group
owner.
Moderationis simple to do, either ask someone to withdraw/delete such a
postthemselves or a moderator remove it and suspend the perp's
membershipposting privilege.
Either-or. Ask the person for someself-restraint and if they don't come right
through then clip theirmembership privilege. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are
quitereasonable. -JaiGuruYou!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote :
From: "reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
How do you know no one here is a child molester? Since, for you Xeno, it
doesn't qualify if someone suggests anal sex with babies, where do you
personally draw the line, whether or not someone has such tendencies? I think
you've sort of painted yourself into a corner on this one. I am not accusing []
of anything...
Similarly, I am not accusing [] from the Chico, California area of anything,
just reminding him that people who boast of having a huge stash of automatic
weapons and ammunition and of knowing how to create IEDs and chemical weapons
might just show up in the keyword scans of Internet traffic conducted by the
NSA, ATF, and Secret Service, so such bragging might not be the smartest thing
for him to do.
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