--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
<snip>
> > > No that doesn't make much sense in that if boundaries never
> > > existed, ignorance never existed.
> > 
> > "Reality is different in different states of
> > consciousness."  
> 
> If that fits your story, then fine. It doesn't make it a universal
> truth. (Is there ushc a thing?)

It also describes my experience.

> > The reality that boundaries
> > never existed is specific to the "liberated"
> > state of consciousness.  
> 
> And the lack of recognition of any boundaries belong many peoples
> awareness that have not bought in to a "bondage / ignorance" 
> story.a
> 
> > The reality of those
> > who are not yet liberated is that boundaries
> > do exist.
> 
> If they have bought into a bondage story.

As I said, I had the sense of being "bound" on a
personal level long before I ever heard anybody
telling that "story."

> > > Seems to be the "seekers" trap. 
> > > 
> > > Why can't someone simply be happy where they are now, without 
> > > first having to imagine unreal boundaries, and unreal ignorance 
> > > of the fact that the boundaries and ignorance  are unreal?
> > 
> > Because to those who are not yet liberated, as
> > noted, the boundaries are very real indeed.
> 
> To some I am sure they are. A self-recognition of boundaries --
> whether real or not -- that is their perception. But there is a 
> thrid group that your story doesn't seem to recognize: those that 
> don't experience boundaries and have not bought into a bondage game 
> or story.

Well, they *could* be spontaneously enlightened.  It
does happen.

Or, they might just not recognize the boundaries.  Or
prefer not to recognize them.






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