I think Doug is doing a great job as moderator. FFL should not be an abusive environment, and as Doug has said, the Yahoo guidelines are pretty simple. It should also be evident to anyone why TurquoiseB was removed, as a recent returnee has explained. You would have to be willfully blind not to see it.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : Nice to hear from folks again and see folks returning and some joining FFL again. Feels like watching the migration flyways where waterfowl in traveling drop in out of the sky to rest and feed along the way. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : Yes, Turqb and Serious are gone from FFL by moderation. I am only the CEO. My master is the list owner. We had quite sufficient back and forth about this before taking our additional time to go in to pull the moderation levers in the controls. From Soccer.. A red card will be shown to a player who has committed a serious offence such as violent conduct or an illegal and purposeful obstruction of a goal scoring opportunity for the opposing team. A red card will also be shown to a player who accumulates two yellow cards for more minor offenses. These guys who have presently been ejected from FFL were well beyond accumulating two yellow cards. It was quite time for their ejections from FFL to secure our alignment as a yahoo-group with the yahoo-guidelines. -JaiGuruYou! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : Thanks for all your concern for the community here. The yahoo-guidelines are really quite simple. Folks will be quite fine on FFL as they write well within the wide margins of tolerance that are the Yahoo-groups guidelines. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <curtisdeltablues@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <j_alexander_stanley@...> wrote : Regardless of how folks feel about Turq, moderation should be carried out transparently, and not in a secret, undefined manner. Me: Exactly Alex. No one can follow the lines if they are not painted clearly. When people hide the criteria they are using to judge people it creates... another TM movement. So far, this experiment with Doug as moderator is starting to remind me of when Rick put an Amma fanatic in charge of moderating the Amma free speech group, with the end result being the loss of free speech and the creation of the Amma Real Free Speech group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote : Turq's posting is exactly the reason so many social sites have shut down their comment sections. Excessive and abusive trolling. I see little downside to having his participation here terminated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : I sincerely hope that TurquoiseB is never allowed to post here again. He is toxic for the entire group and should have been removed a long time ago. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <j_alexander_stanley@...> wrote : Gonna ask again, Doug: did you ban Turq for good or will you be restoring his posting privileges at some point? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <j_alexander_stanley@...> wrote : I looked at the activity log, and Turq is still subscribed; all Doug did was kill his ability to post. Whereas, Rick booted *and* banned the one who shall not be mentioned (I think the banned list prevents a person from even sending a subscription request.) The only people I've given the boot are spammers, and I don't regard them as worthy of any kind of explanation. But, in the case of people who are actual participants, I think full disclosure is in order. In Turq's case, the reason is apparent, but it has not been disclosed if this is just a temporary time-out or permanent. The fact that Doug didn't actually unsubscribe him suggests the possibility that it isn't permanent. What sayest thou, Doug? Is Turq gone for good? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <curtisdeltablues@...> wrote : Thanks for posting this Alex. Perhaps Buck/Doug will share the rational here so we can understand which of his interpretation of the previously never enforced vague Yahoo guidelines Barry violated. In the spirit of Barry's sense of humor here I think the only appropriate thing to do now is to initiate a "dead pool" list of who is going to be next in the the current purge. 1. Salyavin808 for his last brilliant, scathing indictment of Buck/Doug 2. Michael for his consistent efforts to put his finger in the eye of the pompous powers that be in the movement. 3. Me for trying to focus my lens more and more precisely on what it is that I object to in Buck/Doug's misuse of moderator power here. (I am speaking about his threat to Barry for stating his opinion of David Lynch, not for getting banned. Until he reveals it I don't know what his reasons were for that.) Game on! Who will be next? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <j_alexander_stanley@...> wrote : I have zero idea what's going on, but I'll at least let him say goodbye. ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: TurquoiseBee <turquoiseb@...> To: Alex Stanley <j_alexander_stanley@...> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:46 AM Subject: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? It appears that Doug has gone ahead with his threats and has deleted my access to Fairfield Life. I'm just wondering how he justifies doing this based on supposedly "offending" posts of mine made back in May when on June 9th in post #416493 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/416493?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma he explicitly said: In moderation at this point I feel “the past is a lesser state of evolution” and I am going forward with a clean slate on everyone and not one is on moderation in any way from this point. I would only suggest in our going forward that folks take the time to actually read the Yahoo-groups guidelines if they want to continue fluidly posting on FFL. We should appreciate your cooperative collaboration on this. -JaiGuruYou! Seems to me there is more than a little hypocrisy, double-dealing, and outright dishonesty going on here, and since Doug has eliminated the possibility of me bringing this question up to the group myself, I figured I'd ask you to do it for me. Thanks for everything. You have been more than fair in all of your dealings with Fairfield Life and with the odd group of characters who have posted there over the years. I wish that sense of fairness and honesty was equally present in the newest moderator. Barry...ooops, do I get in trouble for using my own real name? :-) P.S. To everyone else, so long and thanks for all the fish...
