It's very simple, Duv. There are now some community standards to be observed 
when posting to this group. There is nothing remarkable about that. It is long 
overdue. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 It's on you RICK ARCHER.  You have not even once come here and explained why 
you are okay with what Doug is doing here.

It's as if you said, "Let's fuck up the place and see what comes out of the 
ashes."  Did you say that?

We don't know, and that's on you.  

Why?  

We deserve YOUR ANSWER.  We've supported your ownership here for over a decade. 
 We've always honored your forbearance and wisdom, but now, when we're all 
adrift, you don't show up.

WHAT IN THE FUCKY FUCK FUCK are you thinking, Rick?

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <curtisdeltablues@...> wrote :

 Just as Maharishi said, "the movement belongs to those who move" (slave labor 
of course) FFL belongs to those who post. Today I see two valuable 
contributors, Michael and Xeno have been canned following Barry's "first shoe 
dropped."
 

 I want to weigh in that I oppose the way content is being examined, evaluated, 
judged here, and believe sincerely that the power to ban posters is in the 
wrong hands.
 

 First of all the Yahoo "guidelines" are just that. They cover Yahoo's back 
side and are not meant to be Vedic laws to be enforced. Obviously if they cared 
about these enough to enforce them it would have happened long ago when things 
were really riled up on FFL during the infamous reign of the 3 Rs. The idea 
that this place has become much worse is a fabrication. FFL has lightened up 
considerably in the last few years. There was no problem to be solved that 
needed this kind of crackdown. And they are too vague to be guidelines, it 
basically says, do what you want on your sites because defining limits is too 
hard. They have used airy platitudes and these are not objective rules in any 
sense of the word. It is a moot point, Yahoo does not care, it is up to us. 

 

 Concerning Feste's point about Xeno trying to hurt that guy in the real world, 
I believe this is an important point to consider. This is the only level where 
I believe banning is appropriate. So I reread the post a few times and noticed 
that there are no names mentioned. This means that you would have to be a 
regular reader of this site to even understand what he is referring to. And if 
someone is that far up FFL's butt, they already know about his activities. I 
even knew about his trip and I don't give a S. More importantly he did not 
repeat linking his name to the offense so it could be picked up by search 
engines as a connections so it was unsearchable. This is important because when 
people came after me and got canned for it, it was after repeated offenses. One 
or two would have slipped by the radar but they insisted on making it a big 
deal through relentless repetition.
 

 In all the hoopla and over reaction we seem to miss Xeno's point. This 
behavior is exactly what he nailed it as, hypocrisy. It shows an amazing degree 
of lack of self awareness not to realize that this moderator is perpetuating 
the exact thing he fears from the movement: judging adult behavior and free 
will by subjective standards and then meting out the punishment of exclusion 
from the group for the contrived "offenses." 

 

 Xeno was putting his finger in the eye of hypocrisy and did it without using 
names or jacking up the search engines. It was a noble act IMO and losing him 
from this forum is a huge content loss for a thoughtful perspective. I would 
challenge anyone to match me post for post of contributions he has made 
intellectually to this forum and you can show me equally thoughtful posts from 
that other guy with his finger on the trigger.
 

 Michael is also a loss to the site. Stephen mentioned that he doesn't like 
posters with an "agenda." The important aspect of agenda is that the motive is 
a hidden one, not that it expresses a strong personal POV. Michael was 
transparent about his motives for posting here. He represented a strong POV and 
I valued it. I wish there was a person who represented the movement's side as 
passionately. That would make for some great conversations. The only person who 
used to fill in for that role was N.  But he was so far from mainstream 
movement thinking and English was a second language so he was left only with 
personal attacks of which I was the target of many for years. I never thought 
he should be banned for that. I thought the freedom to express himself damned 
him just fine.
 

 FFL is only as good as it's contributor's content. Losing Barry, Xeno and 
Michael is a loss to the site whether you agree with them or not. If the ban 
had been for Judy, I could have written everything just the same. Generative 
people, willing to put time into this site and create content makes this a 
valuable place to read. Many of the people, who are behind this change have 
been very light on detailed, thoughtful content over the years. Provocative 
people inspire us to write here. It PROVOKES us. It often takes that kind of 
provocation to decide to take time from our busy lives to share ideas with a 
bunch of strangers. 

 

 Our moderator is reacting as if this is his own intellectual fiefdom and the 
bannings so far have represented his personal offense at posts that he should 
have taken care of by offering his own clearly stated opposing opinion on. He 
cut the conversation short because he has never shown any ability or interest 
in this area of detailed back and forth discussions here. So he is taking out 
those who do contribute one by one. I do not share the values represented by 
the current moderator and believe that this is already having a chilling affect 
on content here. It is limiting the value of this site as an intellectual 
resource for me. I am going to send this post in an email to Rick in hopes that 
he will rescue this valuable resource from the direction it is going. 

 

 How many contributors have to go before we all realized this is no longer FFL 
as Rick intended it anymore?

 

 

 

 





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