---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 I found this on the SAND 2015 page. A little long, but worth reading -
 

 Wow, how interesting. I am not even quite sure what satsang is but from 
reading this it apparently has something to do with energy transferred from 
some "guru" to some student. In addition the author seems to think this 
activity is addicting. Human beings are funny creatures. They seem to consist, 
metaphorically, of a mouth and that's about it. And that mouth seems to be 
forever saying "Feed me". I don't quite get it. Hanging around a bunch of 
needy, hungry people whining for another shot of satsang (no foam, no whip and 
skinny) seems about as appealing as listening to a bunch of meditators worrying 
about the blood moon eclipsing and which fallout shelter they're going to 
inhabit until the bad mojo evaporates, drains away or whatever mojo does in 
order to move on. (Are you getting the picture now why every cult I was ever a 
member of kicked me out, eventually?)
 

 In Need of Satsang Detox
 by Scott Kiloby
 

 One reason I moved into the area of addiction treatment at the Kiloby Center 
was to get away from the satsang circuit. In and of itself, the circuit doesn’t 
necessarily create a lot of harm. But I remember getting numerous calls, texts 
or emails from spiritual seekers who had just attended a weekend or week 
retreat with a teacher. They would say, “The retreat was wonderful – I truly 
found peace” or something like that. But by Tuesday or Wednesday of the next 
week, the emails, texts or calls would change. “I’m suffering again right now, 
what should I do?” I would say, “Investigate for yourself, using the tools you 
have learned. Awakening is truly an inside job. Going to satsang and expecting 
to wake up and be free of suffering once you enter back into your normal life 
is like going to a drug dealer and expecting that temporary high to last 
forever.” So many times the person would not investigate for themselves. 
Instead, they would schedule and attend the next satsang or the next three to 
come to town. Then the cycle would repeat, with the high or peace of satsang 
replaced by the usual suffering days or weeks later.
 

 I have to admit that I am biased. I never attended satsang back in my seeking 
days. Sure, I watched a DVD or two of a spiritual teacher giving satsang. But 
once I extracted some really valuable tools, I put all of that down and began 
investigating on my own. This made all the difference. When I’m talking to 
spiritual seekers who are heavily into the satsang world, they often cite 
“transmission” as the reason they keep going back. The notion behind 
transmission is that there is some recognition that is transmitted from teacher 
to student during satsang. I won’t argue with that. Perhaps transmission does 
happen for some people. However, continuing to go back over and over and over 
so easily slips into the realm of addiction, treating the teacher kind of like 
a drug dealer who is dolling out the good stuff. In many cases, it stops being 
about transmission. It becomes all about addictive seeking.
 

 I am not waging a war against satsang. It has value. But I think it is 
important to point out that investigation using skillful means is of utmost 
important, to finally put to rest the seeking that leads one back again and 
again to satsang. Most good spiritual teachers would agree, even the ones who 
are doing satsang regularly.
 At the Kiloby Center, we truly make no distinction between addiction to drugs 
or alcohol and addiction to spiritual seeking or satsang. They carry many of 
the same elements: wanting to avoid or escape the past or uncomfortable 
thoughts and feelings showing up in the present, continuing to go back to the 
“drug” even after recognizing the cycle of “high” followed by withdrawal, 
believing that there is something (a drug) or someone (a teacher) outside 
oneself that has the answers to life’s pain, and chasing certain states and 
experiences rather than letting all states and experiences come and go freely.
 

 If you are a satsang teacher or someone who goes to a lot of satsang and this 
writing triggers you, there is probably something to examine. This writing 
comes with no ill will towards anyone.  No trigger. My body is completely calm 
as I write this. This writing has more to do with feeling great compassion as I 
watch people look outside themselves repeatedly for what cannot be found 
outside oneself. I would say the same thing to either a drug dealer continuing 
to doll out drugs to addicted people and to the addicted people who are 
enslaved to those dealers. And I’m not saying that all teachers are drug 
dealers and all seekers are like addicts. This is mainly just a metaphor. There 
are great teachers out there who emphasize self-investigation. And there are 
seekers who do a lot of self-investigation. But, if you are triggered by this 
writing, chances are the shoe here does fit. So maybe take a look. Again, 
investigate for yourself.
 
 

 Originally posted on Kiloby.com
 

 



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