--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > What's strange is that I forgot to mention codependency.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks for reminding me.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks for providing my morning chuckle, Vaj.  :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Says the comrade-in-arms while chuckling over jokes made at 
> > > > > the expense of someone with suspected and/or diagnosed 
mental 
> > > > > problems.
> > > > 
> > > > Lighten up, Lawson.  I was not laughing at the recent
> > > > jibes made here about your medical condition, and do
> > > > not support them.  I was laughing at Judy's compulsive
> > > > rush to "defend" one of the people she views as a 
> > > > "comrade-in-arms" and supporter.  The 'codependency'
> > > > Vaj jokes about is on her side, not yours.  I found
> > > > it funny, that's all.
> > > 
> > > Actually, I took it as a jibe at me since "co"-dependency 
> > > is, well, a two-way street.
> > > 
> > > You can't have a single person be "co"-dependent.
> > 
> > You are correct, of course. I was just chuckling
> > at the 'dependency' Vaj nailed in someone who has
> > made an Internet 'career' out of trying to convince
> > others that she's "right" and that they pretty much
> > have to agree with her. Once she recruits someone
> > into the position of agreeing with her fairly consis-
> > tently
> 
> In other words, *Lawson* is the co-dependent, the
> one who is manipulated and controlled (or the "toady,"
> as Barry is fond of putting it).

That's pretty much what I thought (and still think) was implied.

> 
> , then she seems compelled to dive in and 
> > "support" them any time they get into a challenging 
> > discussion.
> 
> Actually this is bullshit, of course.  I support
> people who appear to me to be the target of unfair
> criticism, whether I happen to agree with them or
> not.  The idea of supporting someone just because
> it's the right thing to do is not in Barry's
> ethical vocabulary.
> 
> It's bullshit as far as Lawson is concerned as well.
> He and I often disagree, but generally speaking we've
> been able to do so amicably because we respect each
> other.
> 
> All I ask of anyone is sincerity, fairness, and
> intellectual (and factual) honesty, not agreement.
> 
> Oh, yeah, and the notion that *Barry* is somehow
> above trying to convince people he's right is
> laughable.  Try disagreeing with him sometime and
> see how he treats you.  No matter how amicable you
> are in your disagreement, no matter how often Barry
> claims he's not trying to convince you of anything
> and doesn't care if you think differently, you'll
> be the target of his putdowns as long as the exchange
> continues.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > So it's a dependency issue, not a co-dependency
> > issue. Some people only feel comfortable about life
> > when others agree with them on their illusions about
> > it. Consensus reality, and all that...  :-)
> > 
> > > > I think you've been showing admirable restraint lately
> > > > with the knee-jerk posting thang, and have been putting
> > > > much more thought into your replies before pushing Send.
> > > > IMO, that's a good thing, both for yourself and for the
> > > > forum.
> > > 
> > > Think of them as koans... There's far more thought in my 
> > > one liners than in my stream-of-consciousness paragraphs...
> > 
> > I had noticed that, actually.
> >
>






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