By the end of the seventies we had a stagnate economy with high interest rates
and high rate of inflation.BTW Nixon was a liberal Republican followed by Ford
, not much better then Carter who saw the economy crater .Yes, in the Reagan
era, a lot of wealth was created but I'm not sure how you can say it didn't
benefit the country. All kinds of jobs were created. It was the largest
expansion of the economy we had ever seen. While taxes were reduced, revenues
more than doubled. Perhaps you mean there weren't more or enough *freebies*
handed out as gifts to voters. At the same time, Reagan drove the Soviet Union
into bankruptcy trying to keep up with our rebuilding of our military. The cold
war ended along with Soviet communism and the Iron curtain fell.
Oh yes, I'll say what I will about unions. Their purpose has served it's time
and are now out dated. They are a bunch of crooks. I was a member of a union
for 28 years. I don't know where you get the idea that without them, companies
don't reinvest in themselves. That is how companies grow. I'll agree that in
many cases CEO can be over compensated. However, they are responsible for
insuring that a company makes a profit and keep investors happy and investing.
BTW, many union pension funds are invested in companies that rely on those
profits to pay pensions for more than their own workers. Your average union
pension is probably heavily invested in companies they like to demonize.
From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
I remember back in the 1970's, when communications, travel, and banking
were all regulated by the Feds. Nobody thought of it as socialism, and the
industries so regulated were guaranteed a profit. In the post - Reagan era of
deregulation, there has been a lot of wealth created, but very little of it has
benefited the country as a whole. In fact one of the major effects of
deregulation has been the wholesale destruction of the unions, and any upward
pressure on wages.
Say what you will about unions, but they are the only mechanism the little guy
has, for increasing that paycheck. Without them, profits do not get reinvested
in companies. Instead, CEOs in their blind quest to become ever richer, use
them for stock buybacks, artificially boosting the company's equity and earning
themselves fat bonuses, again.
No one in the US is advocating socialism, nor are Obama and Clinton "lefties".
The idea is laughable. Clinton's NAFTA deal and others were largely responsible
for knocking down trade barriers, and sending millions of jobs overseas.
I resent this idea started by the B actor Reagan that the Federal Government is
too big and corrupt to get anything done, including the management of social
programs. It is poisonous thinking, and very anti-social for the country as a
whole. Like it or not, the government is ours and we own it. That puppet
Reagan's stunted and dark thinking has become some sort of mantra for the
Republicans seems to me astonishingly unpatriotic. Too often it is now used as
an excuse for the rich to deny their obligation to help this country, vs.
seeing it simply as another economic market for further plunder.
So, now that we have an economy largely composed of massive multinational
corporations, what is wrong with providing a safety net for those who for
whatever reason, fall outside the needs of the corporate interests that govern
us? This is not a cry for socialism, it is simply a fair thing to do, given the
way our system works.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
Raul Castro? Is this some kind of straw man argument? Your entire Democratic
party is advocating socialism without using the word. Bernzie being the
exception. They all want the same thing, total government control by taxation
or regulation.Obama and Clinton are only centrists from a Bernzie Sander's
point of view.You're not in favor of *handouts* but.... we don't hand out
enough. Right!
Quite frankly, it's cheaper to do business over seas than the US due to
government regulation, taxation and union demands, more Democratic meddling.
From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
"the far left"??!? As in similar in political outlook to say, Raul Castro of
Cuba?? And who, exactly, in the US Government, has advocated, or worse, acted
on, such an ideological vision? I am pretty confident I can wait here for days
without a name from you, even down to the level of city dogcatcher, because
*they don't exist*.
Obama is a centrist, like Clinton was. The only difference is the color of his
skin. His concern over the demise of social programs is well founded, when our
previous President advocated the destruction of Social Security. "Put it all in
the stock market", he and his cronies said, and he would have, but he had no
mandate from Congress. A good thing, as we would have had millions in the
street when the market crashed.
I am not in favor of handouts, but the current Republican domestic philosophy,
and tax policy, seems to be, "I got mine, screw you", justified on the basis of
some waste and corruption wrt social services programs. A very cold-hearted way
of thinking, and obviously biased when no such scrutiny is applied to say,
military programs, or corporate welfare.
The Republicans scream about losing American jobs, while advocating constantly
for ways to ship jobs overseas. It is ironic that the only thing keeping our
economy afloat are all the cheap products from China, the Far Left, Communist
nation, on which our continued prosperity depends. Calling Obama "far left" is
quite funny from that perspective, as it is the Republicans who are driving us
further into China's hands.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a
person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, that they are racist
and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them has
dark skin. How simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have to
believe that you are seriously suffering from *white guilt* and trying to
absolve yourself by leveling such a charge.Next year, the excuses will be that
we need a *woman* to lead the country and if elected and she faces any
resistance, it will be because she's female in a patriarchal society. This is
meant to appeal to the base instincts of the *low information* voter, an appeal
to the emotions of the ignorant.
Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty higher than ever,
that black unemployment levels are the highest in decades, more people are on
government assistance than ever. Damn the fact that our current president has
more than doubled the national debt of all other presidents before him with
nothing to show for it, that we owe much of that debt to China. That money
generating businesses are leaving our country in droves.
Damn the fact that he threw hard fought, won and costly victories back to our
enemies that has embolden them, That our once stable allies don't trust the
word of our leaders. That once dangerous terrorists that had been locked up
have been returned to the battle field to continue killing again. Damn the fact
that he opens our borders to whoever wants to come here, without due process,
driving down wages for our own citizens, while subsidizing the substandard
wages of the * illegal immigrants* with government social program hand outs
that cost all other tax payers. Damn the fact that because of him, the people
have put more Republicans in office than any time since the end of the civil
war with nothing to show for it because they fear being labeled *racist* and
give him just about anything he wants including another trillion dollar plus
budget this year. Ollie, you have got to be kidding me! You are one of these
low information voters that have drunk the Kool-aide. Of course, any one with a
brain can figure out that the purpose of these policies is to bring about a
complete collapse of the current social and economic system in place and
replacing it with the purest form of socialism which will not redistribute
wealth but redistribute poverty and suffering. Be careful of what you wish for.
The *right* is armed and dangerous and will only tolerate so much of the left's
shenanigans.
This is exactly the mindset, the one that you voice here, that scares the
bejeebers out of me, Mike. Add that to the fact that you claim those "on the
right" are "armed and dangerous" isn't lessening this feeling I have. That's
all America needs, is a bunch of Kool Aid drunk right wingers emerging from
their villages with flaming torches, pitchforks and no teeth (thanks to
unaffordable health and dental) and screaming for banishment of those seeking
asylum in the US and to rid the country of "socialistic" programs. You live in
a dreamworld, Mike. Not one thing you say here is, I believe, true but it sure
gives me a glimpse into one mindset present day US residents have and it is
fear driven.
From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 4:03 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
Please put me on your list too. Barack Obama is one of our better Presidents.
I find it appalling that the many racists in the US Congress see fit to
obstruct him, simply because of the color of his skin. Anyway, just for you old
white racists, I would LOVE it if we had another black man (or a black woman
for a change) for President, only this time, two black parents, and that
beautiful dark, dark skin and full lips. I hope whomever it is, they give you a
big bear hug, a wet kiss on the cheek, and knock that silly pillow case off
your pointed little head.
Merry Christmas to you, and in the TRUE spirit of Jesus Christ, May God Bless
Barack Hussein Obama!!!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emptybill@...> wrote :
Someone's"principle political view" is irrelevant if their personhood stinks.
That is what shills likeOprahclaimed about “The One”. Only he was not presented
as a “stinking personhood”but rather as a unifying saint. Thisis why Em’ likes
him … wondrous Barack Osama, the great divider. He isthe epitomee of the
political liar – promising to unite all while following theplan of Saul Alinsky
(Radical Marxist/Apostate Jew): “Lest we forget at least anover-the-shoulder
acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all ourlegends, mythology, and
history (and who is to know where mythology leaves offand history begins — or
which is which), the first radical known to man whorebelled against the
establishment and did it so effectively that he at leastwon his own kingdom —
Lucifer.” “What follows is for thosewho want to change the world from what it
is to what they believe it should be.The Prince was written by Machiavellifor
the Haves on how to hold power. Rules for Radicals is written for the Have-Nots
on how totake it away." Rules for Radicals,Saul Alinsky Chanukistaniproly
double votes … both Canadian and US elections. What do you expect from a
dual?Em’ proly votes for whomever sounds most neo-Marxist. Isay - hypocrite
swine … give up your possessions and give it all away.Problem is the swine only
want to give away other people’s rights and possessions. Don’tworry though -
Hillary will show them! Afterall, she’s a self-professed lover of Alinsky too.
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