--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Dec 10, 2005, at 3:14 AM, cardemaister wrote: > > > > >> > > >> Maybe I read a bad translation! > > > > > > Well, as a semi-devoted TMer, I like to read > > > Sanskrit texts from TM POV. Here's yet another tranlation > > > for "lokaanandaH samaadhi-sukham": > > > > > > 18. > > > Translation - Enjoying Samadhi is like enjoying the world. > > > Exposition - When established in pure thought and having achieved > > > self-realization, one knows the conscious void that supports the > > > entire world. Subsequent to the knowledge of conscious void that > > > manifests and retains the visible world on the support of visible > > > body, there remains no difference between so-called worldly > pleasures > > > and the delight of samadhi. This is because the basic cause that > is > > > manifested and is experienced in both is one and the same the > > > awakened consciousness. > > > > > > -------------- > > > > > > But for that kind of translation I would expect some modifier > > > in the suutra like "like" - "iva" [ee-vah]: > > > > > > lokaananda [BTW: loka + aananda] iva samaadhi-sukham > > > > The shiva-sutra was the first major translation I worked on after > the > > YS. > > > > samaadhi-sukham is the bliss inherent in constant mindfulness of > > knowing-the-Self. Samadhi does not mean meditative absorption but > > refers to mindfulness of the Self in all objects. The word loka > > therefore in this context refers to the multitude of "objects" > > available in any dimension. > > > > It is said that the following verse from the vijnanabhairava > > clarifies this verse: > > > > "One should regard the whole world or his own body as full of the > > delight inherent in the Self. Simultaneously (with his world- view) > he > > will find himself full of the highest delight which is simply due > to > > the soma welling up in in Self." > > > > Kshmereraja in his comment on this verse, rearranges the order > thusly: > > > > samaadhi-sukham lokaanandaH > > > > It works in both directions: delight of knowing Self in objects > > infuses delight in living beings. > > > > Here's yet another translation, from sanskrit.gde.to -site, > that seems to be erroneous: > > 1.18 The bliss of the sight is the joy of samadhi. > > It's true that the root for 'loka', namely 'lok', means > 'to see, behold', but despite that the noun 'loka' doesn't > seem to have the meaning 'sight', whereas 'loka' with the > prefix 'aa' (aaloka) actually has 'sight' amongst its meanings. >
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