I watched him for a few minutes monopolizing the debate last night as usual. He is setting his position for the nomination, as he would if negotiating for that land he needs for a golf course. At this stage he has correctly calculated that the one with the most bluster, boasting, and BS, wins. Unfortunately he is readily building an audience due to the deluge of empty promises from his opponents, and beating them at their own game.
Business as usual for the trumpster. I have met and dealt with sales VPs very much like him. His playbook is standard - no surprises - Take an extreme position, insult the opposition, and don't retreat, ever, just like offering 20 mil for a hotel worth twice as much. He is running this like a textbook business school case. He won't make it all the way, but this stuff is nothing special, all corporate think and manipulation, for making the sale. Far from the monster you make him out to be, he is pretty much the standard template of the sales executive in corporate America these days. Winning is everything. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote : Most of his facial expressions are extremely distasteful as well; he shows his contempt for everyone and his inhumanity on his face. You see, I don't care how many tall buildings or casinos he's built. I don't care if he can wheel a deal. I couldn't give a crap if he possesses big houses and fancy cars. I am immune to being impressed by whatever he counts as his material achievements. It all means absolutely nothing when viewed in comparison to who he is, what he says, the content he conveys. This is the measure of a person not what he can manipulate and use to his advantage in his misconstrued efforts to build an empire as testimony to his ego and perceived greatness. This man is a pathetic human being who has much to learn and everything to abandon/have the strength and wherewithal to give it all up. I just watch him and stand awestruck. He is truly one of the most subordinary humans I have yet to see hit the big time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : I've never set in on any negotiations that he has been involved in. Nor have I read his book*The Art of the Deal*, a best seller. Neither have I spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him and made deals with him. So no, I'm not qualified to critique his negotiating skills. Have you ever read about or spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him on anything? Do they feel bullied, taken advantage of, cheated or maybe content? Or perhaps, they believe they got the better of him! I do know that he is a successful business man and negotiates business deals all over the world and must be doing something right. I don't think you heard him say that he would hire the best *negotiators* as *advisers*. I did hear him say he would have the best negotiators do the *negotiating*. Advisers advise, negotiators negotiate. Advisers can advise on the negotiating. But let's not split hairs here. Bottom line, the guy is despicable, harrible, disastrous as a human being. In case you don't believe me, have a look but take some Gravol first: http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills? If you are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the National Review also! Sure I am and so are you. Just watch him. He may have pushed and bullied his way around the corporate world but these tactics don't work as the leader of a country. My reasons for thinking this are below in my initial post. It doesn't take much of a brain to extrapolate from all of his bluster from the podium that his way or the highway can only end in war and disaster. Perhaps he is all hot air and were he to actually assume the office of the President of the US he will turn out to be a contemplative, sane, rational, balanced human being but from all evidence from the stump he appears exactly the opposite. It is precisely because his techniques have worked in his (corporate) world so far that he is stupid enough to think they will work in the different context in his role as President (although he will never assume office). I heard him say earlier on that he will hire the best negotiators in the world as his advisors even though they are "harrible, harrible human beings". Does this sound like a good idea to you? I grew up in a family where the patriarch (my father) was one of the most powerful and influential CEO's in the world. He was brave, smart, fair, decent and yet no push over. I grew up around this. I know that no matter how tough and how big you think you are you have to combine it with a balance that includes empathy, heart, wisdom and depth and to understand and acknowledge your own fallibility and weaknesses. In other words, you have to act like a human being. It is only then that you command true respect instead of generating rancor, resistance and resentment by others who you need to "deal" with. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar *empire*. All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for foreign students. Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians. Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a gun"? However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. It's always my way or they high way. If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of independents that are attracted to him. I think you are dreaming if you thing Trump is some great negotiator. It is a different matter dealing with other politicians, other charged circumstances with regard to hostile countries or crazy dictators. You don't start telling them what they're going to do and the blowback from stepping on some of these people's toes is far bigger than losing a contract or some business deal going sideways. Pissing off the wrong people because you're too narcissistic or too delusional to realize you aren't the Big Man of Campus can result in actual war, not just lost revenue. He may have been able to snowplow his way around the business world but he has no idea about the ramifications were he to try his strong arming in the political world as President. Trump is a menace. From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being elected. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered. Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more specific? From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not because they hate Cruz. From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump. Against Trump http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace Against Trump http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace Share article on Facebookshare Tweet articletweet Plus one article on Google Plus+1 Print Article Email article Adjust font size AA AA AA AA AA AA AA by ... 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