---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
Oh no, I get it. You think Trump is supposed to be a charity and pay more than market forces, which no business can do and be profitable, thus going out of business and losing all of it's workers and investments.. Trump is wanting to change the laws, trade deals, to encourage businesses to stay here, so the jobs remain as well as the investments. Meanwhile, he has to play by the rules that congress created. You are just proving my point again and again - you don't get it. BTW, you don't believe/think that any corporation or company who produces their goods here in America are, currently, able to be profitable? And what, exactly, are these "rules that congress created" that doesn't allow Trump to hire American workers? What laws would he break to do so? You make it sound as if he will be guilty of some crime if he gets his merchandise made Stateside. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : WTDF? How about this? Ann declares Trump is a hypocrite because he takes advantage of laws that congress has created for business. He is a businessman intent on making money legally, as defined by congress but in order to make money, he has to compete with others doing the same, on the same level playing field based in market forces. His businesses are to make money, not to be a charity. Let me ask then. Are Democrats hypocrites for demanding that the rich pay higher taxes because the government needs more income, while failing to *voluntarily* pay more themselves? Why shouldn't they go on and pay in tax, what they think everyone else *should* be paying?You know, set the example. Lead by example. Are they hypocrites to use the loopholes and deductions that they created so that they don't have to pay what their *fair share*? I knew you wouldn't get it, Mike. I rest my case. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn WTF?? From whom must Ann obtain permission to express her opinions? And who grants you permission to express yours? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Who are you to say what a person would and should ever do? What/who gives you that authority? Trump is an experienced business man. That is what he does. He creates businesses which in turn creates jobs. He doesn't create businesses or jobs as a charity but to make money. But he knows what it takes. How many businesses/jobs has Hillary or Obama created. I'll tell you, zero, zip,zilch, nada. Nor have any of their advisors. This is the difference. Hillary,Obama and their crew are card dealers. They don't play the game. They just deal the cards, how they want to. Trump takes the cards and makes the most of what he has been dealt. BTW, Trump knows when he has been dealt from *under* the deck. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : No Ann, you're missing the point. He knows how to get things done. He makes use of what he's given. You hear the expression *if life gives you a lemon, make lemonade out of it!* He knows how to accomplish what he sets out to do, given the tools available. Yes, he could make his own products here by himself and compete with those using China or Mexico with current trade laws. Or he could change the trade deals so that its favorable for others to do the same, making it more competitive to be made in America. A person who really believes in something (ie, let's support American workers by actually hiring them) would never, ever - for the sake of a buck - abandon those beliefs and have their (in this case) merchandise manufactured elsewhere. Why is this so hard for you to understand? It is a simple point, an elementary logical question, given the context. Are you this stubborn or dense or simply willing to tolerate blatant hypocrisy? From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Of course no gun was held to his head. He's a businessman and successful businessmen use the *system* encouraged and created by congress, including tax laws to make a profit. MIKE, YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT. HE IS A HYPOCRITE. WHEN DO YOU THINK HE DECIDED THAT KEEPING JOBS IN AMERICA WAS A GOOD THING, SOMETHING HE WANTS TO ENCOURAGE? OR, DO YOU THINK HE NEVER GAVE A SHIT AND STILL DOESN'T BUT HE IS SIMPLY LYING TO FOOL PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING HIM AND VOTING FOR HIM? WHEN DO YOU THINK HE HAD HIS 'CONVERSION' TO WANTING TO 'MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN' AND CAME TO BELIEVE CLOSING ALL LOOPHOLES OR DISALLOWING MONETARY GAIN AS A RESULT OF PRODUCING OFFSHORE CAME ABOUT AND WHY? DO YOU THINK WHEN HE DOESN'T BECOME PRESIDENT HE WILL STOP MAKING HIS CRAPPY PRODUCTS IN OTHER COUNTRIES? DO YOU HAVE $1000 TO WAGER? From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yeah, he said he has. He also says he didn't set up the system. There is no "system" and no one is forcing him to make his baubles overseas. I know many manufacturers who have felt strongly enough about making their goods on this Continent that they have continued to do so. I have no problem with companies employing people in poorer countries to make North American goods but I do have a problem with hypocrites like Trump who say one thing and do another. Who sells a big fat lie to the American people while not supporting one iota anything he says. So don't give me any bunk about any "system" - no gun was held to Trump's head to move offshore with his products. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn Donald Trump Has Long Benefited From Trade Practices He Now Scorns http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/politics/donald-trump-trade.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/politics/donald-trump-trade.html Donald Trump Has Long Benefited From Trade Pract... http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/politics/donald-trump-trade.html As a businessman, Mr. Trump has relied on the type of cheap foreign labor that he vows to clamp down on if elected president. View on www.nytimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/politics/donald-trump-trade.html Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yeah, we should be doing a whole lot better. However, we've been shipping our manufacturing jobs over seas, fewer higher paying jobs here. We allow people to come here to take the lower paying jobs that seem to be beyond some people's *dignity* level, although food stamps, unemployment and welfare aren't. Where are those smart phones, smart TV's etc. made? We've become a debtor nation, borrowing to meet our needs and service oriented in what jobs remain. When God spoke to the children of Israel, He told them that if they followed His laws(in tune with dharma), that He would make them the head and not the tail, the lender, not the borrower, the master not the servant. In other words, fall out of dharma and you become the tail, the servant and a slave to your lender because you'll depend on him to meet your need. Any of this sound familiar? From: "rajawilliamsmith@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feel The Burn The median home income should be way up, more women are making much more money at least until 2007, more two income families. More people in the world are much wealthier, China, South American countries. and there is a lot of neat things we have with tremendous value, smart phones for example, which we didn't have in 1973. A lot of what wealthy people own is really at service to society, stocks in companies, but we do have to look at excessive use of natural resources, like ozone.
