--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > Judy, 
> > > > Just a few off the cuff comments to your thoughtful reply.
> > > > 
> > > > Regardless of your (our) judgement of Maharishi's state of
> > > > consciousness, how the teaching is manifested still has to be
> > > > evaluated critically. Does it acomplish it's purpose? This is 
> part
> > > > process of life.
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure we can say what its purpose is in a way
> > > that would enable us to do a critical evaluation.
> > > 
> > > How would you define it?
> > > 
> > > > You'll find the same internal consistency in many of the more 
> > > > proment Adviatic, Dzochen, Course in Miracles, etc. teachers. 
> And 
> > > > many have the same type of character flaws we talk about here.
> > > 
> > > Sure.  But internal consistency is just one of the
> > > criteria I was using.
> > > 
> > > > Most of us agree that TM has inspired benificial unfoldment of
> > > > consciousness.  When we see or come into contact with Maharishi 
> we 
> > > > get a clearer reflection/experience of OUR own Self (Blazing 
> > > > Brahman is non-dual, afterall)
> > > > 
> > > > We (both us and Maharishi) still have to work it out in the 
> > > > relative, no matter what the perspective on where or who or 
> from 
> > > > what state of consciousness the  teaching comes from. 
> > > 
> > > Yes, well said.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Without meditators there is no movement, no TMO. 
> > > > 
> > > > JohnY
> > > >
> > >
> > Sure, the purpose of the teaching is to unfold enlightenment for the
> > individual. Simple, if there is no or limited access to the teaching
> > how can that happen. Maharishi has planted that seed very widely. 
> Why
> > should it stop now? Is the TMO fulfilling it's purpose now? Very
> > difficult to say. Will it do so in the future? There certainly isn't
> > any clear indication of that. The TMO is and has been violently
> > contracting on itself. Burning many carefully build bridges along 
> the
> > way. Slowly and simply teaching all these years would have worked
> > better, in my opinion, with much less bullshit.
> 
> It's a reasonable perspective, but it isn't exactly
> the basis for an objective measurement of whether
> MMY's teaching is fulfilling its purpose.  There are
> lots of ways to interpret what MMY is doing with the
> TMO now, some of which suggest that it will
> ultimately facilitate that purpose more than going
> slowly and simply.
> 
> I've proposed one such: MMY wants to contract the
> movement and burn its bridges so that it can be
> handed over to King Tony in a nice, neat, self-
> contained package of unquestioned loyalty once MMY
> dies, which will allow Tony to take firm control
> and implement his own plans and ideas without a lot
> of controversy (or at least without as much as 
> there would have been otherwise).
> 
> In other words, the contraction now will make
> expansion easier once King Tony takes over.
> 
> I have *no* idea if that's correct; obviously we'll
> have to wait and see.  We have no idea yet what Tony
> will be like as the head of the movement, whether
> he'll take it and run with it or get all bogged
> down in trying (and inevitably failing) to be a
> second Maharishi.
> 
> But I don't see anything that would rule out that
> interpretation, at any rate.
> 
> There's more than one way to skin a cat; plus which,
> "Unfathomable is the course of action."  Who can say
> what Nature has in mind?
>

Yup, that's one idea that makes some sense. Even that could be done
without fraud. Other family run (ordinary/traditional) businesses do
it, and without being "unfathomable".

JohnY





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