I could care less who they are.
From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Praying football coach
Yeah, right, all those poor, persecuted Christians having to hide their
faith.
Give me a break.
And unless they're using a loudspeaker, how can you be sure they're even
Christian? They could be praying to (gasp) Satan, for all you know.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
I imagine there is a certain amount of civil disobedience involved, such as not
having to *hide* your faith from the public. And this is the real problem,
isn't it? It's not really that they are violating Christ's prescription for
personal prayer.
From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Praying football coach
Fine, do it off the field in the clubhouse. There's no need to do it in public.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
I believe the article says he prayed *after* the game.
Growing up, it was normal for coaches to lead teams in prayer, not asking for
victory but protection from injury for all players and a spirit of good
sportsmanship.
From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Praying football coach
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
He did give thanks to God a few times in public, but other than that, he's
described in the Gospels as praying by himself.It *is* against what Jesus
taught.Am I missing something here? You say he did it but then he was against
it.
I said he *didn't* pray in public other than giving thanks a few times.
And the coach was ostentatiously praying in public at a *football game*, for
pete's sake, not a session of Congress. As if who wins a football game was high
on God's list of priorities!
His mission was that no man needed another, as an intercessory. He was the
intercessory between man and God. The vail in the temple was torn upon his
death. No man needed a priest to intercede. Martin Luther busted the Catholic
Church for doing the same.
Yes, people should pray it privacy, daily but he wasn't against group prayer or
prayer in public
the coach was doing, to make a big public display of how supposedly devout he
is. Contemptible.You're ascribing motive not proven. Public prayer has been a
tradition for ages. Check your congressional record.
From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Praying football coach
What I quoted is from the Sermon on the Mount. He goes on right after those
verses and one about not using "vain repetitions" to tell his audience what to
pray in private: the Lord's Prayer. That's obviously not Jesus "praying in
public."
What he was against was praying in public "to be seen by men," as he says in
what I quoted. And that's exactly what
No, it's not against the Constitution. I didn't say it was.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
Of course you know who the hypocrites were that Jesus was referring to, the
temple priests and pharisees who were arrogant and dressed in their finery and
tried to impress the public with their knowledge of the Torah. Bull- shit
artists.Pay for play. You go to the temple, they tell you your sins and and
what sacrifices needed to be done. Then you bought your lamb from them with
coinage that you changed into acceptable coinage, at a price, for them. It was
a racket.
Jesus prayed in public a lot. Remember the sermon on the mount?
Buddha made the same observations about the Brahmins and their system of yagyas
, pay for play.The coach wasn't making any money off of anyone. Simply setting
an example. Maybe even an example of civil disobedience. His freedom to
exercise his religion freely, speak freely, and gather peaceably with others
voluntarily, were being denied. A God given right, granted in the constitution
by the Bill of Rights.
From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Praying football coach
"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray...on
the street corners to be seen by men. Truly I tell you, they already have their
reward. But when you pray, go into your inner room, shut your door, and pray to
your Father, who is unseen. And your Father, who sees what is done in secret,
will reward you."
--Matthew 6:5-6
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
The Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion or
prohibiting the free exercise there of;or abridging the freedom of speech or
press or the right of the people to peaceably assemble yada yada yada.
If I were president, my justice department would throw everyone of the school
board members in jail for denying the coach and his players the right to
express their religious convictions, denying their free speech,and right to
peaceably assemble.
From: "yifuxero@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 7:03 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Praying football coach
Christian football coach loses job after praying at games. (he first prayed
for some 15-20 sec after each game right on the 50 yard line; not privately).
Then, team members joined in. Coach Joe says it's all voluntary.No! ....when
your team members start engaging in group activities, whatever that may be
(even "God" forbid - gang rapes), there's an incentive resulting from peer
pressure to participate otherwise risk being shunned....I've seen the same
phenomenon on real-life prison documentaries. Prisoners sometimes are
"encouraged" to pray in special sessions where they hold hands and praise God.
OK, fine; but try not attending the prayer group. Next thing you'll get a
shank in the gut for being a nonconformist.
Joe Kennedy, praying high school football coach, sues district to get his job
back
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